Some criticism is that they gave too much of a shit.
All opinions and political free hits this Kaz. It can be whatever the viewer/reviewer wants this sorry saga.

No it can't, the world is not whatever you say it is.

This unfolding fiasco can be many things, but one thing it simply cannot be, regardless of ones politics, is an exoneration. Material reality exists, facts matter and there is such a thing as truth, as Johnson is finding out to his cost.
 
Neither gave a shit , they were both saying it didnt exsist and would go away in a minute , trump was worse in some respect but both of them were saying and doing the same things , if you had watched trump every night like some of us did in a thread similar to this in fact then you would have seen that disgrace in action and boris parroting him as well

These parties were a disgrace and he knows it and is lying his arse off here , there was no drinking in hospitals to boost morale , why the fuck was there under his watch
You've made your mind up and I respect that and you Kaz. I know you had a rough time during the height of the pandemic and admire your strength and fortitude.
A rare time we disagree - not entirely, but perhaps on the vehemencey and emotive comparisons.
 
From the Guardian....

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Johnsonite and former business secretary, has doubled down on his claim that the privileges committee is a kangaroo court.



And Mark Jenkinson, another Tory MP loyal to Johnson, has thrown another insult at the committee’s membership; he has accused them of being middle class.



(Some of us are old enough to remember the days when the Conservative party was proud of being middle class.)
 
From the Guardian....

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Johnsonite and former business secretary, has doubled down on his claim that the privileges committee is a kangaroo court.



And Mark Jenkinson, another Tory MP loyal to Johnson, has thrown another insult at the committee’s membership; he has accused them of being middle class.



(Some of us are old enough to remember the days when the Conservative party was proud of being middle class.)

They’re turning against their own now and it’s delightful to see..
 
Since day one, double speak.

I am very clear what the rules are. You must follow them.
Do the rules apply? Sometimes. It depends on what works for me.

This is not about much more than that, never was with Boris. That's why we got taken to the brink.

It will never be wrong for some people. And there's an element of honesty in their view. Rules often do apply but don't. You should just not push it this far, or allow someone who will push it like that to get in charge. He's more or less the same as Blair in his approach, at the end point of how flexible they believe we should be with our definition of honesty, words, truth. He just pushes it all the time. And in service of himself without regard to the people. People are there to be used, their naivety, hopes, dreams. Who cares? The only reason he thinks about those things is because they are profitable for him. Health, sustainable economics, education. Those things are not profitable for him.

Which is why he is different to Blair. Blair delivered economics and services. And Blair would always leave eventually. Boris dgaf about that! Leaving the trough? Same category of thought as "delivering for anyone apart from people who he needs". Not profitable. No matter the cost to our country. Of course he'd install himself as unelected and impossible to remove. Forever. If it meant the end of democracy, he'd regard himself as a historic hero for breaking up the system. Democracy only matters to him because it's profitable to him.

There's nothing more to him, than him. He'll demand the life, the prestige, the honors, the protection, the status, the birds, the favours, the scummy money, without any principle, he'll defend his right to those things without any scruples whatsoever, and he'll do it forever, and if the country, nay, the world suffers enormously as a result, it's no skin of his nose, in fact, he's long ago accepted that's how it will happen. It's his right to profit from it.

He never delivered economically or socially and every win was a big failure with a little save rebranded. He set us up for years of misery. It was always on the cards. Because in his mind, today is always about saving and protecting Boris. Bigging up Boris. And tomorrow? The future? Well, obviously, Boris wants more for Boris. As much as possible. Nothing else really matters.

Interesting theory.

I'd also suggest that Blair had Brown and Mandelson who could tell him to stop.
Johnson was surrounded by yespersons.
 

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