Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I’m not sure all Muslim blokes follow this good advice

Then they must be very brave individuals........

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

Then they must be very brave individuals........

And hungry ones...

 

[bluethrunthru]

Boris has all the diplomatic skills of the proverbial bull in a china shop,he is definitely a full shilling though and wants to lead the tories,wasn't there some reference though in all he said that we shouldn't be like Denmark and ban the burqa? I think it all got lost in post boxes and bank robber comments.

That actually WAS his point - had he stuck to his main thrust then fine - but he had to go full Bannon and refer to bank robbers and letter boxes - no need to use such phrases that he is surely intelligent to know are inflammatory - the man's a knob head but I hope he gets the top job so he can banish Toryism for a generation.

 

[Fame Monster]

Certainly wasn’t aware of the previous voting record to which you refer, which certainly undermines my view of him being instinctively socially liberal. Again, I wasn’t aware of his stance on fox hunting. I’m against fox hunting myself, which (arguably) is contrary to my liberal perspective; as you’ve indicated, it’s a complicated subject in the context of where liberality lies. Didn’t have a problem with the children’s clothing policy. Less so, the porn opt out. That said, I certainly don’t agree that the coalition would have been the only reason he voted for gay marriage.

I thought Atlee would have been a bit posh for you.

I've got no problem with where a person is brought up as long as it doesn't inform their lack of compassion for people from a different class. I have problems with certain advantages/disadvantages conferred to people in society but not with the people themselves. Coincidentally, I think May's grammar school plan is one of the best plans to improve social mobility as long as there is enough regulation to ensure it is used for that purpose and not abused by parents whose kids already have a socio-economic advantage.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I've got no problem with where a person is brought up as long as it doesn't inform their lack of compassion for people from a different class. I have problems with certain advantages/disadvantages conferred to people in society but not with the people themselves. Coincidentally, I think May's grammar school plan is one of the best plans to improve social mobility as long as there is enough regulation to ensure it is used for that purpose and not abused by parents whose kids already have a socio-economic advantage.

I too think that grammar schools can be a force for good for the reason you've outlined. It's worth noting that the rump of our Prime Ministers in the 70's and 80's: Wilson, Heath, Thatcher and Major were all from relatively modest backgrounds and were grammar school educated, whereas Blair and Cameron conspicuously were not. There was much more social mobility in the post-war years and there can be little doubt that the grammar school system played a big part in that.

 

[happy daze]

That actually WAS his point - had he stuck to his main thrust then fine - but he had to go full Bannon and refer to bank robbers and letter boxes - no need to use such phrases that he is surely intelligent to know are inflammatory - the man's a knob head but I hope he gets the top job so he can banish Toryism for a generation.

Ẁell knob head or no,and I'm no fan of the tories but then what prospect do we have,another Blair? no thanks and Corbyn no not him either or Vince the lib dem.

The truth is we really have a dearth of any decent leadership material but do have parties who spout the faux outrage at the tory austerity when the truth is had they gained power they planned much the same.

 

[worsleyweb]

Any chance my Corbyn thread ban can be lifted while the popcorns put?

 

[hilts]

Any chance my Corbyn thread ban can be lifted while the popcorns put?

If you can't do the time.............

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If you can't do the time.............

That saying is most unfair on sex offenders from the 1970’s who find themselves on trial in 2018...

 

[Vic]

I too think that grammar schools can be a force for good for the reason you've outlined. It's worth noting that the rump of our Prime Ministers in the 70's and 80's: Wilson, Heath, Thatcher and Major were all from relatively modest backgrounds and were grammar school educated, whereas Blair and Cameron conspicuously were not. There was much more social mobility in the post-war years and there can be little doubt that the grammar school system played a big part in that.

There's a lot of doubt. Clever people then who went to grammar school went on to great things. Clever people who went to comprehensive schools now go on to great things.