Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

Can't be doing with lefties and all that detail argument. My fuckin brain hurts just thinking about people I don't agree with. How the fuck am I supposed to decide wether the argument is relevant and based on sound principles, or is merely one of the myriad of emotionally motivated effort that narrowly misses the epistemological mark? As if that didn't then confuse my feelings further by provoking an empathetic leap to experience their anguish. How the hell should I know if that is to be resisted or not? And how does that inner turmoil help me make a clear-headed, common sense judgement as to the proportionality of this hypothetical emotional state of theirs when considered with the ethical judgements and psychological realities that arise from whatever state of affairs they find themselves? You're asking us to literally imagine a world in which we know half of what's happening to other people because it's the same as our world, but then you're saying there's individuals in it who might be experiencing different emotions and thoughts because we're all individual beings with separate consciousness? Who, when confronted with this, does not experience some subliminal awful moment of startling terror, provoked by the silent cognitition that this indeed confirms that the contents of our heads are no bigger than another persons, thus implying that we rarely amount to any more than a tiny slice of recognition in someone else's mind, and the fragility implied by our knowledge that when engaged with that recognition of another, they literally cease to exist in our mind, can you think of anything more horrific than the fragility this implies? And somehow, the experience of their emotion is even worse, because we literally feel it! Like they are now in our mind! And you might then consider how fucking often emotions transmit from one to another and how something we experience came out of a part of our mind that was tuned to watch for displays of emotion in others and that could provoke the same emotion in us and without our say so or even our recognising it? Who now, when confronted by this assault on the solidity of our self image, would instinctively feel they should provide the mental space within their own faculty such as neccessary to 'understand' and 'consider' a competing point of view proposed by someone else?

It's a fucking joke! Someone needs to shut them up! As if they didn't learn from the referendum!
 
Summerbuzz said:
Can't be doing with lefties and all that detail argument. My fuckin brain hurts just thinking about people I don't agree with. How the fuck am I supposed to decide wether the argument is relevant and based on sound principles, or is merely one of the myriad of emotionally motivated effort that narrowly misses the epistemological mark? As if that didn't then confuse my feelings further by provoking an empathetic leap to experience their anguish. How the hell should I know if that is to be resisted or not? And how does that inner turmoil help me make a clear-headed, common sense judgement as to the proportionality of this hypothetical emotional state of theirs when considered with the ethical judgements and psychological realities that arise from whatever state of affairs they find themselves? You're asking us to literally imagine a world in which we know half of what's happening to other people because it's the same as our world, but then you're saying there's individuals in it who might be experiencing different emotions and thoughts because we're all individual beings with separate consciousness? Who, when confronted with this, does not experience some subliminal awful moment of startling terror, provoked by the silent cognitition that this indeed confirms that the contents of our heads are no bigger than another persons, thus implying that we rarely amount to any more than a tiny slice of recognition in someone else's mind, and the fragility implied by our knowledge that when engaged with that recognition of another, they literally cease to exist in our mind, can you think of anything more horrific than the fragility this implies? And somehow, the experience of their emotion is even worse, because we literally feel it! Like they are now in our mind! And you might then consider how fucking often emotions transmit from one to another and how something we experience came out of a part of our mind that was tuned to watch for displays of emotion in others and that could provoke the same emotion in us and without our say so or even our recognising it? Who now, when confronted by this assault on the solidity of our self image, would instinctively feel they should provide the mental space within their own faculty such as neccessary to 'understand' and 'consider' a competing point of view proposed by someone else?

It's a fucking joke! Someone needs to shut them up! As if they didn't learn from the referendum!
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I was having the exact same conversation with my mate at work today, well apart from the first paragraph.
 
Tb1981 said:
Good one
Guardian article god a start
Criticism for not locking down followed by more for not ending lockdown
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That's what everyone's saying. It's not that it's right or wrong to end lockdown. It's just that lock down was a really simplistic and lazy stab at doing what needed compared to what could have been done. Ending those measures is a similarly thoughtless manner. It's like you've fallen off your bike and bruised and cut yourself all down your leg. You give your mate money to buy some first aid stuff. They arrive back with 10 boxes of elastoplast. Not useless. Just, fuck. Germolene, bandages, dressings. That's the way. Now, how does them taking five of them back and putting the money back in front of you solve it? Bear in mind, as far as Corona measures go, the government are the only ones who can realistically do anything on a national scale. They are, for the sake of our metaphor, the only person in your household who can get to the shops for your stuff. People like me are sitting there thinking, I know this fucker. If he doesn't want to do it, he'll just fuck it up and then I'll have no-one to go at all, and he's such a popular and manipulative **** around here, I'll still have to smile at him and laugh at all his jokes every time. I don't deal with people like this fucking flatmate any more. Lazy little sods who can't be bothered to do anything for others, not even recognise their hurt except enough to make them look good. They won't risk getting scared because they're too fucking comfortable proving the point that they're so cool and popular and that's because no-one in their right mind does anything for someone else if they want to look cool and popular. I'm too fucking old for these cunts. I have been for decades. Fuck them. He needs to shift his fucking arse and make some stuff happen. But he's so fucking lazy and plenty of dickheads have always been succeptible to thinking the lazy one is actually not lazy at all, he's the cool one, and it's him we should be trusted and respected. It's an actual fucking mental deficiency in human beings. I swear it. But you'll all fall for it like schoolgirls until the dawn of time because you want a bit of peace and quiet in your head!
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I'm noticing some very long and we'll crafted posts in this thread tonight. It may be well to keep in mind that most of us can only concentrate for about the same length of time as one of those gifs of a bird firing a ping pong ball out her fanny. Thank you.
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That is actually the main reason Johnson has the level of support that he does (as in the use of easily digestible slogans, not the use of gifs of ping pong firing fannies...)
 
meltonblue said:
That is actually the main reason Johnson has the level of support that he does (as in the use of easily digestible slogans, not the use of gifs of ping pong firing fannies...)
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easily digestible slogans? - 'strong and stable'; 'get brexit done'; and of course 'things can only get better'
 
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