Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

[bluethrunthru]

Maybe.

I always got on well with my local Libdem MP Steve Webb, until he lost his seat to the Tory, Luke Warm. Sorry Luke Hall. (More like Stone Cold than Luke Warm in fact. Fecking useless lump that he is.)

So it would depend on the policies. If the Libdems offered policies of financial prudence, rather than the Labour policy of "sod it, spend it anyway and bugger the consequences", then they might retain my support.

Behave - you are bringing sensible consideration of policies into a political thread.....are you mad????

 

[blue cigar]

Maybe.

I always got on well with my local Libdem MP Steve Webb, until he lost his seat to the Tory, Luke Warm. Sorry Luke Hall. (More like Stone Cold than Luke Warm in fact. Fecking useless lump that he is.)

So it would depend on the policies. If the Libdems offered policies of financial prudence, rather than the Labour policy of "sod it, spend it anyway and bugger the consequences", then they might retain my support.

As opposed to, leave the tax Dodgers, tighten the benefit rules so that we kill people? Yep, clearly a Tory boy. As for the Linden's, a joke party, a protest vote for the people that pissed away there "red line policies" for 15 minutes of glory, imagine voting for that set of bastards.

 

[SpiritofBurnden]

Lol

Then she broke the law in Iran and Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard threw her in gaol. Where she still resides. Which is Boris’ fault apparently.

You've not really been following this story have you?

 

[Turks Head Again]

Corbyn will be measured, clear and precise whilst Boris will be a sweating bumbling wreck

Measured , clear and precise ?
It took a Tory in the shape of Cameron to tell him how to buy a suit.
The man is a racist and he will bankrupt the country in a month with his financial promises.Heaven help us if he gets in.

 

[Daz_Blue]

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

I find the level of hate for him quite perplexing

Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that Johnson is a habitually mendacious, narcissistic ****, or something like that.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that Johnson is a habitually mendacious, narcissistic ****, or something like that.

and his inability to keep his cock out of women he isn't married to - an old style pov I know but one I would have thought was dear to the average Tory members heart? Maybe they are all fucking each other and can't see the problem?

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

The following is from an online review of Yale historian Tim Snyder's latest book and seems relevant to a climate in which populist demagogues and despicable chancers like Johnson find their way to power through one means or another.

'When all political power is held by 0.1% of the population who together own circa 80% of a country’s wealth, this privileged minority cannot allow democracy or rule of law to flourish as this will lead to diminishment of their wealth through the high taxation necessary to enact progressive legislation to improve life chances for the many and move society forward. So an alternative reality is created, a different sense of time; by connecting emotionally with a sector of the population (‘the base’) and looping back to a non-specific former time, promising to “make Germany/Russia/America great again” (the language & message is always the same). The idea is fostered that there is no truth other than the purity of ‘the people’, ‘the nation’, who are under threat by contamination from outside: Jews, Moslems, ‘western degeneracy’, homosexuality, Mexicans, liberals, people from “s***hole countries”.

The purpose of government then changes from ‘doing’ – i.e. improving society by moving it forward and making everyone’s lives better – to ‘being’, guarding the purity of ‘the true people’. All politicians lie, but you may choose our lies, our alternative reality, over ‘theirs’: the others, the outsiders, the ‘them’ who are not us. During this process, political opposition is eliminated in stages, elections become a rigged and managed ritual, investigative journalism is eliminated and replaced by state propaganda (i.e. RT, Sputnik & Fox News), and politics is reduced to a theatrical spectacle of rabble-rousing rallies and the manufacture of artificial crises one after another to keep the population off-balance and continuously emotionally enraged.'

Though I'm not sure about that last bit, it sounds like Snyder's thesis is worth engaging with. I'm definitely going to be reading this soon.

 

[mat]

Here we fucking go.

Facists unite!

 

[mcfc1632]

We will not be leaving on the 31st unless there is a signed agreement. The sooner people get this no-deal rubbish out of their heads the better

There won't be meat on the bones, either. Theresa May is a lot of things but I do not accept that she was that incompetent that something which took her 3 years can simply be done in a matter of weeks by the next PM

"no deal is better than a bad deal" has got to be one of the most politically damaging statements in the UKs recent history. Along with "Brexit means Brexit"

That has been proven to be the case

Any outcome - including Remaining - is better than the bad deal that Robbins and May brought forward