Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Whilst I don't know the name of a couple of them, as their narrative wrongly is deemed unworthy, I do remember a couple.

But, there's no story there, is there?

Whilst, as you say, the media around her is driven by the virtue of her age, sex and ethnicity (also driven by Justice Democrats), her stepping back of her firebrand that got her there is, now, overlooked.

I find it odd that she had been brow beaten into submission by being ignored by Pelosi for positions on committees to teach her to bend the knee and she did so, Mamma Bear-ing her way to voting 'present' on the Iron Dome vote, when her firebrand self would have said 'no'.

That's how much she's shifted as an example.
I have a newsflash for you: It’s called politics and democracy!

You can scream whatever you want, and push that agenda, but politics, esp in the House, where there are over 400 other VOTING members, requires you to support & advocate (as strongly as possible, even if it is behind closed doors) your positions, but even a noob like AOC understands reality.

Ever heard of the Green New Deal before her?

You seem obsessed that she has had to temper her positions and play well with others in order to gain any traction. I’m going to suggest you think she should have tried the Benevolent Dictator route, because her following the democratic process has you a little verklempt!

Is she the first politician you have ever heard of that has had to temper her election rhetoric, or is she a special kind of progressive you despise?

Anyone would think you lived in the Bronx!!!
 
I have a newsflash for you: It’s called politics and democracy!

You can scream whatever you want, and push that agenda, but politics, esp in the House, where there are over 400 other VOTING members, requires you to support & advocate (as strongly as possible, even if it is behind closed doors) your positions, but even a noob like AOC understands reality.

Ever heard of the Green New Deal before her?

You seem obsessed that she has had to temper her positions and play well with others in order to gain any traction. I’m going to suggest you think she should have tried the Benevolent Dictator route, because her following the democratic process has you a little verklempt!

Is she the first politician you have ever heard of that has had to temper her election rhetoric, or is she a special kind of progressive you despise?

Anyone would think you lived in the Bronx!!!

I find this quite boring.

I ask a question and the return is that I'm 'screaming'. I haven't effed and jeffed and now that you can't level racism at me, you resort to my apparent 'stamping of feet'. This is an intended lack of discussion.

There have been a few politicians that haven't altered their 'election rhetoric' but they were left as I am left and they (& I) are left of AOC.

That is why she bends the knee.

Enjoy your own words, CB.
 
I find this quite boring.

I ask a question and the return is that I'm 'screaming'. I haven't effed and jeffed and now that you can't level racism at me, you resort to my apparent 'stamping of feet'. This is an intended lack of discussion.

There have been a few politicians that haven't altered their 'election rhetoric' but they were left as I am left and they (& I) are left of AOC.

That is why she bends the knee.

Enjoy your own words, CB.
The problem is your left-right meter is calibrated differently, and she wants to be an effective LONG TERM politician, not a shooting star, or comet, that creates instant light and quickly dies.

In those circumstances, principled flexibility is required or your light quickly fades.

There’s a reason most people who rise to the top on politics are rarely spring chickens.

P.S. Your constant political nonsense IS really boring, but that’s because you don’t have like to be called on it. Well known. You should try something else occasionally.
 
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The problem is your left-right meter is calibrated differently, and she wants to be an effective LONG TERM politician, not a shooting star, or comet, that creates instant light and quickly dies.

In those circumstances, principled flexibility is required or your light quickly fades.

There’s a reason most people who rise to the top on politics are rarely spring chickens.

P.S. Your constant political nonsense IS really boring, but that’s because you don’t have like to be called on it. Well known. You should try something else occasionally.

Man,GTFO!

You're, basically, forgiving her for changing her mind, which I don't mind as a rule, but she hasn't retracted her views in that vid, nor asked for that vid to be taken down.

All this allows is her two different sides to be presented. If she can't get them removed, then disavow them. So you, in essence, don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

You don't want to explore the evolution, you don't want to question her word salad when presenting a less than straight answer. Your sole purpose is to shutdown any questions.

This is the discussion to be had.

This is the discussion you don't want.

So, instead of you frothing your non-defence of this aspect, why don't you just move on?

I will continue to question as I do with all things and you can continue not to because you find it easier in life to nod along.

Simple enough.
 
Man,GTFO!

You're, basically, forgiving her for changing her mind, which I don't mind as a rule, but she hasn't retracted her views in that vid, nor asked for that vid to be taken down.

All this allows is her two different sides to be presented. If she can't get them removed, then disavow them. So you, in essence, don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

You don't want to explore the evolution, you don't want to question her word salad when presenting a less than straight answer. Your sole purpose is to shutdown any questions.

This is the discussion to be had.

This is the discussion you don't want.

So, instead of you frothing your non-defence of this aspect, why don't you just move on?

I will continue to question as I do with all things and you can continue not to because you find it easier in life to nod along.

Simple enough.
I’m not quite sure what world you live in, but in the real world, people state their desires and strive to achieve them. When they don’t, they don’t just restate the desires the majority have on their behalf, they stick to their guns (on behalf of their constituents) and try again, often by building consensus, and sometimes by simply outlasting and outliving those who would have it another way.

Either way, that is REALITY!

You seem to think we live in a world where nobody is allowed to strive and fail, yet restate their goals and try again, because the results didn’t work out!

I really don’t want give a flying fuck what you think of me, my arguments, AOC, or ANY American issue, to be honest.

It seems you come here to stake some ground on some faux outrage and defend it with whatever it takes. Today, the outrageous acts appears to be AOC, a young politician, who said one thing but did another, and yet has failed to take down a fucking Internet video.

Shock. Horror. News at Ten for details!

If you’re looking for ACTUAL outrageous videos, I’d suggest aiming a little further to the right!

Grow the fuck up about real life politics or you’re going to send yourself to an early grave! She’s just one of over 400+ votes in the House. Not a Senator, not a Departmental Secretary, and not even close to a heartbeat from the presidency…yet!

Get over your faux internet outrage already!

Like you said days ago…this is boring, yet here we sit! One of us actually has skin in this game, while the other has a hard on for a young Latina politician from the Bronx from thousands of miles away!

Here’s a quote from a guy who understands the reality she faced when elected:

She won't succumb to the lobbyists, but you will see her do the Pelosi Dance, while she positions herself better.

Her influence is extremely strong, but she's a new congress woman and has much to learn about House politics.

Whatever happened to that guy?
(Yawn)
 
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I’m not quite sure what world you live in, but in the real world, people state their desires and strive to achieve them. When they don’t, they don’t just restate the desires the majority have on their behalf, they stick to their guns (on behalf of their constituents) and try again, often by building consensus, and sometimes by simply outlasting and outliving those who would have it another way.

Either way, that is REALITY!

You seem to think we live in a world where nobody is allowed to strive and fail, yet restate their goals and try again, because the results didn’t work out!

I really don’t want give a flying fuck what you think of me, my arguments, AOC, or ANY American issue, to be honest.

It seems you come here to stake some ground on some faux outrage and defend it with whatever it takes. Today, the outrageous acts appears to be AOC, a young politician, who said one thing but did another, and yet has failed to take down a fucking Internet video.

Shock. Horror. News at Ten for details!

If you’re looking for ACTUAL outrageous videos, I’d suggest aiming a little further to the right!

Grow the fuck up about real life politics or you’re going to send yourself to an early grave! She’s just one of over 400+ votes in the House. Not a Senator, not a Departmental Secretary, and not even close to a heartbeat from the presidency…yet!

Get over your faux internet outrage already!

Like you said days ago…this is boring, yet here we sit! One of us actually has skin in this game, while the other has a hard on for a young Latina politician from the Bronx from thousands of miles away!

Here’s a quote from a guy who understands the reality she faced when elected:



Whatever happened to that guy?
(Yawn)

TL;DR.

All I'll say is, rather than wish she was playing the long game, that has turned out to be a false premise; a rather hopefully excusing of what was seen with the shift.

Firebrands are always smothered by the wet of capitalism and she's just one in a long list of many in the states.

If another 'firebrand' of the moment primaried her, she'd lose her seat.

THAT is the 'reality' you're blind to.

Laters.
 
TL;DR.

All I'll say is, rather than wish she was playing the long game, that has turned out to be a false premise; a rather hopefully excusing of what was seen with the shift.

Firebrands are always smothered by the wet of capitalism and she's just one in a long list of many in the states.

If another 'firebrand' of the moment primaried her, she'd lose her seat.

THAT is the 'reality' you're blind to.

Laters.
TL;DR is a loser’s ignorant “Get Out of Jail” free card, esp when it’s your own words you’re TRYING to avoid!

The “reality” is what YOU SAID:

“She won't succumb to the lobbyists, but you will see her do the Pelosi Dance, while she positions herself better.

Her influence is extremely strong, but she's a new congress woman and has much to learn about House politics.

She’s been in DC for TWO YEARS, ffs!

And, to even IMAGINE that she gets primaried FROM THE LEFT is not only hilarious, it is clueless!

I realize throwing YOUR OWN WORDS IN YOUR FACE isn’t appreciated, but you know who changed in the last two years?

YOU, not her!!!

YOU had her, and what she faced in DC, correct in 2019 when you posted the above.

Now, however, you act like what you predicted (and anyone with sense also knew) is somehow her death knell and she’s become a cop out! It’s ridiculous.

Laters is right!

Already wasted enough time on this!
 

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