Alexei Navalny dead

[meltonblue]

I get the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend but come on.

It’s a couple of years old but a good article on Navalny and his political progression -

The Evolution of Alexey Navalny’s Nationalism

The Russian opposition politician has placed the right to self-determination at the center of his politics.

www.newyorker.com

 

[ultimateharold]

Like him or not that documentary on BBC iplayer is something....

 

[BlueAnorak]

NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard | National Security Archive

Western leaders gave multiple assurances against NATO expansion to Gorbachev in 1990-1991 according to declassified American, Russian, British, Germans documents

nsarchive.gwu.edu

Hi Ivan (wave)
So how do you feel about Putin murdering his chief political opponent in Jail?
I just wondered coz you seem to be such a Putin fan boy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard | National Security Archive

Western leaders gave multiple assurances against NATO expansion to Gorbachev in 1990-1991 according to declassified American, Russian, British, Germans documents

nsarchive.gwu.edu

What is that website? Looks somewhat tendentious.

And as I said, it still doesn’t justify Russia’s truculence. NATO is plainly not about expansion via coercion. Everyone who is a member, wants to be one. Not sure that’s true of the Russian Federation.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

As ever Cold War Steve sums it up in what’s a dark image even by his standards.

View attachment 107284

I can’t believe he left Thatcher off there…

 

[cleavers]

Just watching the Navalny documentary again, when he went back and was arrested, there was a lot of protests, I wonder if his death will see this reappear, he had a lot of support, but has putin turned those people around, I really hope not, but fear the worst.

There are reports of some protests, but I doubt it will be enough.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Just watching the Navalny documentary again, when he went back and was arrested, there was a lot of protests, I wonder if his death will see this reappear, he had a lot of support, but has putin turned those people around, I really hope not, but fear the worst.

There are reports of some protests, but I doubt it will be enough.

It will not be enough. It’s a dysfunctional state, and the days of protest are over. For the foreseeable.

 

[cleavers]

It will not be enough. It’s a dysfunctional state, and the days of protest are over. For the foreseeable.

I don't think Navalny was all that, but I'm living in hope it's a catalyst to get it back.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I don't think Navalny was all that, but I'm living in hope it's catalyst to get it back.

I so hope you’re right, mate. Putin’s the personification of evil.

 

[cleavers]

I so hope you’re right, mate. Putin’s the personification of evil.

The corruption of those in power/with money is the real issue, how that gets broken I've no idea, a peoples revolt is probably the only way, and currently seems a very long shot.