Alexis Sanchez

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Are they, or are you assessing united against a set of idealised footballing attributes that are perhaps of lesser importance than the way the strengths they do have sit against the ability of the other teams in the Premier League to cope with them? I would argue that it doesn't matter that they don't have much of a build up plan and that they aren't the quickest to resume defensive shape. They're a gigantic physical team with blistering pace in the final third, and attacking players who thrive running against isolated defenders, and those are precisely the strengths they utilise. If they face a parked bus, they rain whipped crosses in to an assortment of giants until something breaks for them by accident or design, and then they rape you on the counterattack thereafter. When they face decent opposition capable of outplaying them - limited pretty much to City and Spurs - they park a massive bus of their own.
There's no great finesse to it, but it's hugely effective and they have a squad full of expensive players ideally suited to that MO.
As we saw last season, it's rare that they lose anyway, but I think the draws that blighted them against the lesser lights will not be an issue this time around. They may not be a great side in the traditional sense, but they will be hugely effective

That seems like a fair assessment.

I've watched them less than ever in recent times but did see the latter 30 mins of their first game and wasn't impressed but they went and got late goals without breaking sweat. WHU did look like rather pitiful opposition by that point so it was hard to judge much. They do have a squad in every way and a manager who plays the percentages well and knows how to win things; he also has a great record in his second season at clubs so I see them as real contenders for now.
 
Exactly right. It doesn't matter a toss that they don't knock the ball around like Holland circa 74, just that they have an effective game plan to defeat what's in front of them......which the early indications are that they do

And against teams that are in contention, Mou will take a draw.

Pep will try to go for the throat and does want to play like '74 Holland /Ajax. I was in thrall to Cryuff those guys at the time and that's one very big reason why I so want(ed) Pep at City but it is a much riskier route. We have to score many more goals this season than last and defend more effectively from the front; Sanchez would hopefully help us do that if we could get him. We really need that extra top class option upfront.
 
Agreed on all counts.



In part. But you guys must know out of all teams how hard it is to sell players you want rid of when they are on good money. You still have the likes of Mangala, Nasri & Bony in your squad.
All the players that City want rid of were bought under different managers. My point is that Wenger has been at Arsenal for so long that he should have nobody in his first team squad that are regarded as deadwood. Irrelevant of paying for the stadium Arsenal have been a poorly run club for years. Certainly over the last 5 years when they have been relatively debt free with a huge income. Can't believe they have signed players like Elnenny, Mustafi, Gabriel and Xhaka and many more.
 
Can see it being done at £50-£55m, maybe £60m but no chance at £70m. Interesting comment about the Chile match getting in the way of a last minute deal, looks like it has to be next week. Probably start firming up our interest after the Everton game.

Where's the loud mouth tarquin gone?
 
You know who you are. Surprised you wasn't in for a bit of banter after yesterday's game, I know you like a laugh.
I didn't get back from Stoke till half eleven, knackered and throughly pissed off. Weren't in the mood for a laugh, just scoffed down a large doner and fucked off to bed to watch MOTD, only to be further wound up by realising we were denied a blatant pen.
 
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