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Utd have struggled since City became competitive. That one season where they had RVP & Mancini had a breakdown, masks a long period of decline.

If Bob had kept his shit together, we would have won it that season as well & the picture would be clear, that this started under Ferguson, not Moyes.

In spite of changing managers, & short term fluctuations, we have had a long term target of what we want to be, & how we want to do it.

This Sanchez situation is a perfect example of that, in action. We plan for a player, put it all in motion, & they jump in at the last minute, to try & fuck it up, when we are already 15 points clear at the top of the table & don't even need him.

What they should be worried about, is beating us to whatever we are planning for 2020, not reacting to what we've already done, in 2017.

Manure's days of wine and roses are over , blips of cups along the way but the playing field has levelled and all the frailties appear for all to see now and yes it did start well before Fergie finished up with them with panic buys for the short term and RVP was a classic example of that.
 
It's hard to gauge whether City are bluffing at this stage.

Soriano has been driving this and was clearly offended by how Arsenal conducted themselves back on transfer deadline day, perhaps even making him look stupid in front of Pep and the hierarchy?

He was crystal clear in December that we would be waiting until next summer to get Sanchez on a free transfer, content in the knowledge he wants to play for Pep.

That position clearly changed, whether that be down to Jesus' injury, or just the club feeling we now stand on the precipice of a potentially historic campaign

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories in the main, as I am privy to United's genuine interest, but what had changed for Sanchez between knowing we were prepared to wait until the summer (last week in December) and just three weeks later, his supposed insistence that he must get away from Arsenal this window, even to the detriment of a £25m pay day as a free transfer, can it really be that insufferable for him at the Emirates?

Just a theory, but there is a chance our position is orchestrated between City and Sanchez, to exact ultimate payback over Arsenal, with the added bonus of embarrassing United as the stalking horse?

The media have been briefed twice now from upstairs, both were messages that have contradicted each other, in terms of any type of deal in January.

It will be interesting to see how angered Pep would be with both the player and City if our bluff is called on the final day.

The smooze is clearly on from Mourinho, the money isn't an issue, so it still comes down to whether Sanchez doesn't hold up his end.

To be honest Tolm I’m beyond caring..we are an unstoppable force in the Prem currently..if he comes great..if he doesn’t fair enough..just want this month to be over as it’s boring me to tears
 
Not Wenger's decision.
He has had his last chance,
- to get Sanchez to sign a new contract. Which was a stupid assessment from the start.
- to get the best out of a slapped player who already was off, deep inside. Which didn't take into account fundamental human behaviour about fairness.

Bottom line we did learn once again: if a player wants to leave, let him leave.
Ultimately decision rests with Sanchez but Wenger still has a say since the player is still in contract . He can say no to the player going anywhere in January. I don't think he will do that because he will end up with nothing by letting him go for free in Summer. So depending on Wenger's stubborn attitude ,a possible replacement for Sanchez and the player's own choice (to go with beauty or the debt ridden beast ) we must wait and see .
 
To be honest Tolm I’m beyond caring..we are an unstoppable force in the Prem currently..if he comes great..if he doesn’t fair enough..just want this month to be over as it’s boring me to tears

This. It’s a distraction right now from what we do best and what’s important and that’s playing and winning games.
 
cant think of one personally,

on topic - dont need sanchez
Dybala is a secondary striker (same as Griezmann), so the only proper CF available in the market having starting quality would probably be Timo Werner. Or there might be a small chance that a previously unavailable CF becomes available in the summer (would like Kane to be honest).
 


hmmmmm

But Goal understands that while the club insist they are willing to walk away from a deal this month, potentially leaving United with a clear run, the Blues would rather find an agreement that suits all parties and sign the Chilean before the transfer window closes.
 
Ultimately decision rests with Sanchez but Wenger still has a say since the player is still in contract . He can say no to the player going anywhere in January. I don't think he will do that because he will end up with nothing by letting him go for free in Summer. So depending on Wenger's stubborn attitude ,a possible replacement for Sanchez and the player's own choice (to go with beauty or the debt ridden beast ) we must wait and see .

Agreed, I was heading to the Arsenal board having the final word.
 
Sometimes it's worth remembering that we're the club 15 points clear in the league, in a cup semi-final, and bookies favourites to win the CL, playing the some of the best attacking football the country has ever seen and breaking 130 year old european records.

There will be world class players absolutely desperate to come play for us, and as much as I'd like Sanchez here, he's not such a big catch that we should be begging and smashing all our wage structures just to convince him to come. If he isn't 100% committed, another world class player will be.

Absolutely this.
 
That seems to be Pep's philosophy, if a player doesn't want to be here, off he goes. & that is sure to be his attitude with Sanchez now.

The fact that City haven't already pulled out of this deal, in public, means they have had no indication from Sanchez, that he has any doubts imo.

I recon if he even mentioned considering Utd, Pep would just tell him to go sign for them.
Great post . All deduced logically .
 
To be honest Tolm I’m beyond caring..we are an unstoppable force in the Prem currently..if he comes great..if he doesn’t fair enough..just want this month to be over as it’s boring me to tears

You see, this is where I am at odds with seemingly so many of my fellow blues.

We have won nothing yet and I still don't consider us home and hosed in the Premier League, much as the national consensus seems to think so.

The margins have been far tighter in the last couple months and could have gone the other way in the blink of an eye.

Sanchez gives us maximum insurance against further injury, a lack of cutting edge, further impacting the psyche of our rivals, both domestically and abroad.

I don't want the Moral Stance Cup, I want the real stuff and Sanchez coming this month could guarantee the difference.

Put it this way, Sanchez in United's team would certainly get them closer to us before the season ends.
 


hmmmmm

But Goal understands that while the club insist they are willing to walk away from a deal this month, potentially leaving United with a clear run, the Blues would rather find an agreement that suits all parties and sign the Chilean before the transfer window closes.


'Arsenal are demanding a fee of £35m for Sanchez while the player's agent Fernando Felicevich, previously dubbed ‘the king of South American football’ by Forbes magazine, is requesting a fee of £5m for facilitating the transfer.

Now it makes sense, as, predictably, does Mourinho's involvement.
 
Utd have struggled since City became competitive. That one season where they had RVP & Mancini had a breakdown, masks a long period of decline.

If Bob had kept his shit together, we would have won it that season as well & the picture would be clear, that this started under Ferguson, not Moyes.

In spite of changing managers, & short term fluctuations, we have had a long term target of what we want to be, & how we want to do it.

This Sanchez situation is a perfect example of that, in action. We plan for a player, put it all in motion, & they jump in at the last minute, to try & fuck it up, when we are already 15 points clear at the top of the table & don't even need him.

What they should be worried about, is beating us to whatever we are planning for 2020, not reacting to what we've already done, in 2017.

Well said.

Thanks God BM is readable again!
Was really painful with all those flappers in panic mode only because someone said "United".
 
Ultimately decision rests with Sanchez but Wenger still has a say since the player is still in contract . He can say no to the player going anywhere in January. I don't think he will do that because he will end up with nothing by letting him go for free in Summer. So depending on Wenger's stubborn attitude ,a possible replacement for Sanchez and the player's own choice (to go with beauty or the debt ridden beast ) we must wait and see .

They want a replacement if he is to go this month , if that doesn't happen he stays.

I don't think Sanchez will lose any sleep playing out his contract even if other players voice their concerns about his ' disruptive influence ' off the pitch.

What does Wenger want , I reckon he wants him to stay until the summer , the repercussions for him if he goes for free are not relevant and short lived to him or the board even if the fans are pissed off with it which they already are and have been for a long time now.
 
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