Alexis Sanchez

[AwayDay]

Arsenal have been caught by the FFP wage cap according to this reporter.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...sanchez-mesut-ozil-new-contract-a7803741.html

Is this reporter's view accurate? You guys must have discussed this?

You are presenting Arsenal's position as if they are dictating events. If this reporter is accurate then Arsenal are backed into a corner and have two choices

1) They keep Sanchez for 12 more months and let him go on a free
2) Sell him to City in this window

An indication as to what Arsenal will do may come from close Arsenal contacts in the media starting to criticise sanchez in public, preparing the ground for the sale.

The other aspect that could be important is if Sanchez and his agent put in a transfer request.

It is very difficult to read what Wenger is going to do. I would prefer Sanchez to stay at Arsenal. I think he has at least one good season left in him, but is he better than Aguero? Arguable. The one feature of his game that is attractive above all else is his personality on the pitch and that is why I think Guardiola wants him. I am not keen as I think his game is going to drop off very quickly as he's an explosive player and they don't age well.

I agree with all this, the most sensible thing to do would be to keep him for a season and let him go after, he ll be 30 in 18 months. I wouldnt even give him 300k for the next 4 years.
As for city, youd be my choice if he has to go to another English club, he'd at best improve your attack by maybe 10%, if he goes to Man utd, hed transform them, they have nothing going forward.
He goes to you and he will be keeping another world class player out of the team, whether its Sane Jesus or Aguero.

 

[AwayDay]

Agree. I'd force him to stay if I was running the show. I think there might have been some agreement dating back to February That they'd let him go. I saw some wenger quotes saying that he'd reveal why the squad struggled but only after he retired (sloppy paraphrasing on my part FYI).

Possibly, we dont know all the details, there may be other things. In a normal situation though id just keep him for next season.

 

[AwayDay]

These reports have been around for a while mate, so I think they are accurate. Even in case of your option 1 (keep Sanchez) there is still the matter of what to do with Özil. He also wants an increase in wages, and they have to find that money somewhere. Selling Sanchez would solve all Arsenal's issues and allow them to buy further players. Seems like the only logical thing to do, if you ask me.

We can sell Giroud Walcott gibbs Perez Debuchy Sczcesny Wilshere an.d a few others. We dont have to give Sanchez a new contract, the best thing to do is do nothing

 

[City Raider]

I agree with all this, the most sensible thing to do would be to keep him for a season and let him go after, he ll be 30 in 18 months. I wouldnt even give him 300k for the next 4 years.
As for city, youd be my choice if he has to go to another English club, he'd at best improve your attack by maybe 10%, if he goes to Man utd, hed transform them, they have nothing going forward.
He goes to you and he will be keeping another world class player out of the team, whether its Sane Jesus or Aguero.

Or he'd be helping keep world class players fresh when everyone else has tiring, injury hit squads.

 

[Jazzman]

We can sell Giroud Walcott gibbs Perez Debuchy Sczcesny Wilshere an.d a few others. We dont have to give Sanchez a new contract, the best thing to do is do nothing

You can do that. But it amounts to dumping 50 million in the bin, when Sanchez then leaves for nothing next summer. Seems very expensive for the pleasure of having an unhappy player for 1 season.

 

[Deleted member 13905]

Arsenal have been caught by the FFP wage cap

isn't karma a beautiful thing?

"you can stick yer headed letter up your arse, arsene!
you can stick yer headed letter up your arse, arsene!
you can stick yer headed letter,
stick yer headed letter,
stick yer headed letter up your arse, arsene!"

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

You can do that. But it amounts to dumping 50 million in the bin, when Sanchez then leaves for nothing next summer. Seems very expensive for the pleasure of having an unhappy player for 1 season.

You could argue it amounts to 50 + 1 years wages, probably wasted on an unmotivated player, so closer to 60.

 

[Deleted member 13905]

the best thing to do is do nothing

 

[AwayDay]

You can do that. But it amounts to dumping 50 million in the bin, when Sanchez then leaves for nothing next summer. Seems very expensive for the pleasure of having an unhappy player for 1 season.

Replacing him will cost a lot more than 50m. Lukaku is going for 100m , Lemar quoted at 80m. 50m is nothing compared to an extra year of Sanchez. Not to mention the fans revolt and the ensuing civil war.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Wenger is the modern footballing equivalent of de Gaulle. He's never wrong, everybody else is. Whatever he does is gonna be right for The Arse!! Even if it costs them money and trophies.

 

[City Raider]

Replacing him will cost a lot more than 50m. Lukaku is going for 100m , Lemar quoted at 80m. 50m is nothing compared to an extra year of Sanchez. Not to mention the fans revolt and the ensuing civil war.

It will be interesting to see if the club do as good a job whipping up hatred as the dippers did over Sterling. If this was immediately after Wenger announced his contract extension there would have been huge revolt regardless of the fees involved.

 

[ADegenerate]

It will be interesting to see if the club do as good a job whipping up hatred as the dippers did over Sterling. If this was immediately after Wenger announced his contract extension there would have been huge revolt regardless of the fees involved.

I hope they do. F*ck the media and everyone else. We'll never be the media darlings. Let's be the Full on bad boys. Sanchez is perfect.

 

[johnmc]

Replacing him will cost a lot more than 50m. Lukaku is going for 100m , Lemar quoted at 80m. 50m is nothing compared to an extra year of Sanchez. Not to mention the fans revolt and the ensuing civil war.

From January though he could be effectively another teams player. Would you want a player in your team for 5 months who's hearts not at the club? Surely you tie him down now or sell.

 

[GunnerGer]

Two nights ago most of the noise was all about Sanchez deciding he would stay, last night it was Cross saying he's demanding £400k a week. Basically, what i'm saying is it's all just noise so far until we find out definitively whats happening. It will be the supporters of both clubs that need to endure the rollercoaster.

 

[Jazzman]

Replacing him will cost a lot more than 50m. Lukaku is going for 100m , Lemar quoted at 80m. 50m is nothing compared to an extra year of Sanchez. Not to mention the fans revolt and the ensuing civil war.

Sure it will be expensive, but if you buy another player for 100 million you will have him for longer than 1 year. So you have to compare 50 million for 1 year with 100 million for 5 years (numbers are examples as we do not know the exact prices and contract length, but you get the gist I am sure). I read today that Messi gets 35 million Euro per year plus a signing bonus of 50 million Euro's for his new 4 year contract. That's yearly costs similar to what you will have to pay for Alexis for one more year. And in 1 year you still have to replace him with a 100 million pound player. I think you need to forget about the emotional aspects and just look at the hard numbers. They speak a clear language.

 

[AwayDay]

From January though he could be effectively another teams player. Would you want a player in your team for 5 months who's hearts not at the club? Surely you tie him down now or sell.

Couldnt care less where his heart is, as long as hes banging the goals in.

 

[AwayDay]

Sure it will be expensive, but if you buy another player for 100 million you will have him for longer than 1 year. So you have to compare 50 million for 1 year with 100 million for 5 years (numbers are examples as we do not know the exact prices and contract length, but you get the gist I am sure). I read today that Messi gets 35 million Euro per year plus a signing bonus of 50 million Euro's for his new 4 year contract. That's yearly costs similar to what you will have to pay for Alexis for one more year. And in 1 year you still have to replace him with a 100 million pound player. I think you need to forget about the emotional aspects and just look at the hard numbers. They speak a clear language.

I dont think Sanchez is worth being our highest paid player after he hits 30. Its not in our interests to put him on a mega long term contract. I think hes got 2 more seasons at the top level, if he spends one of them playing for us at 130k a week its a great result.

 

[Jazzman]

I dont think Sanchez is worth being our highest paid player after he hits 30. Its not in our interests to put him on a mega long term contract. I think hes got 2 more seasons at the top level, if he spends one of them playing for us at 130k a week its a great result.

You again are forgetting that he will play for you for 130k a week plus 50 million for 1 year. Even if he plays at his best that is too expensive. I wouldn't want him at City for that price. And as other has suggested it is perhaps a little much to hope for that he will perform at the same level as last year if he is forced to stay against his will.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Looks like the media are playing a blinder for us!!!!

 

[GunnerGer]

Sure it will be expensive, but if you buy another player for 100 million you will have him for longer than 1 year. So you have to compare 50 million for 1 year with 100 million for 5 years (numbers are examples as we do not know the exact prices and contract length, but you get the gist I am sure). I read today that Messi gets 35 million Euro per year plus a signing bonus of 50 million Euro's for his new 4 year contract. That's yearly costs similar to what you will have to pay for Alexis for one more year. And in 1 year you still have to replace him with a 100 million pound player. I think you need to forget about the emotional aspects and just look at the hard numbers. They speak a clear language.

I think most would agree in a normal year Wenger & The Board would accept an offer for Sanchez they deem as too good to turn down, if the noises are true and Sanchez is adamant he wants to join City. So really, it probably just boils down to how much do they are worried about their own reputation with the fans, considering the pressure that they are under. I can see reasons for both arguments for keeping him & letting him leave, in fact they've went over them probably for the last 700 pages in here, the pro's & cons get regurgitated every day, & the fact they do shows its not a clear cut decision. Whatever happens, Arsenal lose out a bit (bar him signing a new contract), so it's just what Wenger & the board see as the lesser of two evils, for themselves as much as the club.