Alexis Sanchez

[Healdplace]

That New York article contrasts markedly with the United puff piece by Neil Custis in The Sun today.

Talk about towing the party line rather than write objectively.

We get 'next season the red half of the city comes out of the shadows of the blue' and 'the signing of Sanchez is another giant step forward.Proof that the allure of Old trafford remains and that they can challenge the big cash being splurged down the road at the Etihad'.

So - United spend an utter fortune to sign someone who wanted to come to City and could only do so by offering huge sums that we could have matched but chose not to pay.....yet still it is apparently because of the 'allure' of United and of us 'splurging big cash'.

Exactly how?

Oh, and 'Sanchez could have waited until the Summer if he really wanted to go to City' but did not because 'United had extended their hand'.

So plucky United rescued a player who saw their 'allure' as preferable to waiting 4 months.

Yes, that's exactly what happened and the fact that we told his agent to basically do one ('bye then' were the words quoted last week I believe) and that Pep emphasised he only wanted players who wanted to come here not to the highest bidder had nothing to do with it.

Of course, United were not bad as second prize. But Custis is kidding himself if he thinks it is anything but that.

Apparently - though - 'two more major signings' are set for the Summer. So there won't be any 'big cash being splurged' there then.

And I guess when it is that will be our fault too.

 

[goalmole]

There is nothing we can do, to stop Utd giving us 'serious competition'.

The whole concept of this tends to be wrong on this forum. It's out of our hands, what Utd do. It's not about Sanchez, he is just the bloke they have signed now, it would have been someone else they signed, in the summer, who may or may ot have been younger, cheaper & better.

Utd are going to sign players. Sanchez may actually make it more difficult for them to improve or may make it easier, depending on what he actually does, when he plays, not on the fact of them signing him. But it was going to be Sanchez, or someone else in that position. And someone either fairly expensive or ridiculously expensive. Not 'nobody'.

Our job, is to build our team. And do the best we can.

If they can then compete, by spending billions on players, there is fuck all we can do about it.

But they were supposed to be better than us, this season.

You're pushing at an open door as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have put it better myself.
What I will add though is that by paying stupid wages and fees in order to put everything into the Mourinho basket, they may have stored up, probably unnecessarily, problems for the future. It's a risky strategy that may come off but if they stumble now, the high value signings they have made may hinder their recovery long into the future.

 

[taconinja]

There is nothing we can do, to stop Utd giving us 'serious competition'.

The whole concept of this tends to be wrong on this forum. It's out of our hands, what Utd do. It's not about Sanchez, he is just the bloke they have signed now, it would have been someone else they signed, in the summer, who may or may ot have been younger, cheaper & better.

Utd are going to sign players. Sanchez may actually make it more difficult for them to improve or may make it easier, depending on what he actually does, when he plays, not on the fact of them signing him. But it was going to be Sanchez, or someone else in that position. And someone either fairly expensive or ridiculously expensive. Not 'nobody'.

Our job, is to build our team. And do the best we can.

If they can then compete, by spending billions on players, there is fuck all we can do about it.

But they were supposed to be better than us, this season.

That is to put it succinctly a perfect summation of where we stand now and moving into the future.

 

[mancity1]

That New York article contrasts markedly with the United puff piece by Neil Custis in The Sun today.

Talk about towing the party line rather than write objectively.

We get 'next season the red half of the city comes out of the shadows of the blue' and 'the signing of Sanchez is another giant step forward.Proof that the allure of Old trafford remains and that they can challenge the big cash being splurged down the road at the Etihad'.

So - United spend an utter fortune to sign someone who wanted to come to City and could only do so by offering huge sums that we could have matched but chose not to pay.....yet still it is apparently because of the 'allure' of United and of us 'splurging big cash'.

Exactly how?

Oh, and 'Sanchez could have waited until the Summer if he really wanted to go to City' but did not because 'United had extended their hand'.

So plucky United rescued a player who saw their 'allure' as preferable to waiting 4 months.

Yes, that's exactly what happened and the fact that we told his agent to basically do one ('bye then' were the words quoted last week I believe) and that Pep emphasised he only wanted players who wanted to come here not to the highest bidder had nothing to do with it.

Of course, United were not bad as second prize. But Custis is kidding himself if he thinks it is anything but that.

Apparently - though - 'two more major signings' are set for the Summer. So there won't be any 'big cash being splurged' there then.

And I guess when it is that will be our fault too.

Its only when they win a title they talk about a season as if it actually happened.

When they don't its as if the season didn't happen.

If they don't win it this year all they will talk about is how they got Sanchez and our season , what season we got another player from Arsenal.

 

[Neville Kneville]

You're pushing at an open door as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have put it better myself.
What I will add though is that by paying stupid wages and fees in order to put everything into the Mourinho basket, they may have stored up, probably unnecessarily, problems for the future. It's a risky strategy that may come off but if they stumble now, the high value signings they have made may hinder their recovery long into the future.

Agree competely. They are operating without a plan & I can't really think of another big club which has had success operating that way.

I made the comparison on here of Utd trying to be the English Real Madrid, to our English Barca, ie signing star players & throwing them into an 11 rather than relying on a team pattern which stars have to fit into.

But Real Madrid have done it by usually having one of, if not several of, the world's best players leading it. They don't look so clever now Ronaldo has lost his edge.

 

[taconinja]

Agree competely. They are operating without a plan & I can't really think of another big club which has had success operating that way.

I made the comparison on here of Utd trying to be the English Real Madrid, to our English Barca, ie signing star players & throwing them into an 11 rather than relying on a team pattern which stars have to fit into.

But Real Madrid have done it by usually having one of, if not several of, the world's best players leading it. They don't look so clever now Ronaldo has lost his edge.

That and they lost the best of their squad players because Ronaldo and others felt threatened by the up and comers. They played Zidane like a fiddle.

...too bad they didn’t unload Isco to us though.

 

[Healdplace]

The good thing about United making more of a competition is it will prevent any winner's over confidence.

If - and it is still an if - we win the title by clear water this season there can be a natural tendency to not have the same fight next time round on the back of your mind feeling it will be just as easy to retain. Though it never is.

So it helps to have a fight because that brings out the best in most players with a winning mentality. Everything falling into place with little challenge can inevitably bring a diminution of output as time goes by.

 

[Neville Kneville]

That and they lost the best of their squad players because Ronaldo and others felt threatened by the up and comers. They played Zidane like a fiddle.

...too bad they didn’t unload Isco to us though.

Yes, he would fit in pretty well here right now.

But Utd would probably jump in & offer him 700k pw, then try to figure out where to play him.

 

[M12Blue]

You're pushing at an open door as far as I'm concerned. I couldn't have put it better myself.
What I will add though is that by paying stupid wages and fees in order to put everything into the Mourinho basket, they may have stored up, probably unnecessarily, problems for the future. It's a risky strategy that may come off but if they stumble now, the high value signings they have made may hinder their recovery long into the future.

I know its unlikely but I would love them to do a Leeds. They are getting sanchez to ensure top 4 not to catch us

 

[Pam]

I hope he puts four stone on in weight by April and gets sent to train with the youth team.