'All Or Nothing' - discussion of documentary

BlueTG said:
Yeah I kind of got what he was saying, and I'd be shocked if things that like hadn't happened with other players over the course of the last 2 years. I think he was trying to say, that once United got their first goal we decided to shit ourselves instead of doing what we normally do (which he meant by the basics). When Pep cut back at him, he clearly became a bit flustered.
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His point was specifically about what we should do when we concede against good teams - and he's right, we do have a tendency to fall apart when we give one goal away in such situations (twice at Anfield last season and in the home derby, we shipped three goals in less than half of one half). Unfortunately, I think Pep thought he was criticising the approach more generally and slapped him down, so he never quite got the point across properly.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I'm at the same point & had been thinking the same. Saw him carrying a bag full of footballs for the keepers in one episode.

Having watched six so far. I've found it interesting but not totally compelling. A, slight disappointment compared to the trailers.
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Agree. Really good 7/10 but was expecting 10/10.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
David Conn
Colin Schlinder
Simon Hattenstone
Marina Hyde

All seemingly have something in common and they all have a problem with our (Muslim) owners.
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Care to explain what the Hon Marina Dudley-Williams has in common with the others? I’m sick of this lazy and frankly insulting stereotype that keeps getting trotted out on here that some journalists of Jewish descent (David & Colin I know and they have virtually no connection with their religion that I’m aware of and haven’t for many years) automatically have an issue with Muslims. It’s really very insulting and possibly could be construed as racist.
 
Finished all 8 episodes last night. The 7th was a hard watch and reminded me how angry I was after those three games, not just with the refereeing but with our players and even Pep himself.

The interesting (and maybe slightly worrying) thing was just how many times Pep had to urge to players to up their mentality and desire and to follow his instructions. I do wonder if some of these players, despite having every possible advantage, still can’t quite find that elite mentality that exists at Barcelona, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich. He said it himself that it’s the one thing that marks them out. I wonder if some of our older players are a little complacent, having come to the latter end of their careers and seemingly satisfied with the medals they’ve got.

When you look at players like Sane and Sterling, the former appears to be a bit of a spoilt brat and I’m not sure he’s going to be with us for much longer if he doesn’t get his head straight. Whereas Sterling, despite all the shit thrown at him, seems to work harder and harder to get better.
 
I’m halfway through my second viewing. It’s really enjoyable as a City fan and humanises the players very well. It’s great to see them l celebrate and to try to understand Pep’s rants.

To call it “warts and all” is Pushing it a bit as there aren’t many warts on show. The whole thing is so airbrushed it could easily have been made by our marketing team. The picture quality of the Sky footage is poor and so is the sound mixing: they haven’t got across the big match atmospheres which would have aided the drama because they’ve used canned crowd noise.

Having said that, it looks to me like it will attract a lot of new fans. I see sky have bought it now which will raise its profile again. A good move by the club and I remain impressed by the intelligence of the senior executives.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Finished all 8 episodes last night. The 7th was a hard watch and reminded me how angry I was after those three games, not just with the refereeing but with our players and even Pep himself.

The interesting (and maybe slightly worrying) thing was just how many times Pep had to urge to players to up their mentality and desire and to follow his instructions. I do wonder if some of these players, despite having every possible advantage, still can’t quite find that elite mentality that exists at Barcelona, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich. He said it himself that it’s the one thing that marks them out. I wonder if some of our older players are a little complacent, having come to the latter end of their careers and seemingly satisfied with the medals they’ve got.

When you look at players like Sane and Sterling, the former appears to be a bit of a spoilt brat and I’m not sure he’s going to be with us for much longer if he doesn’t get his head straight. Whereas Sterling, despite all the shit thrown at him, seems to work harder and harder to get better.
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You're right, though it seems (purely speculative on my end) Sane is the one with the elite talent but poor work ethic/attitude, and Sterling with the high work-ethic but lacking the extra level of relative technical competency.
 
Not watched it yet apart from Episode 5 at 29 mins. After Sane scores at Bristol there is a crowd shot and im nearest the camera looking like a right miserable bastard.I had just received an injection in my left shoulder (frozen shoulder, rights fooked too) so was in agony and couldnt raise my arms.Everyone I know who has watched it has took the piss out of me since.
 
Finishing episode eight off now. I can’t say it’s gripped me as much as I thought it would, however I’ve enjoyed it.

All about John Stones drinking ale on a golf course dressed as the Easter bunny. Future captain.
 
The only thing that bothers me about this series is that I think it will only be interesting for city fans and to a lesser extent existing premier league fans.

The ‘All or Nothing’ series has usually had better production values and felt more like mini movies than ‘fly on the wall’ documentaries. If you watch the American football versions, they will grip anyone, even if you have absolutely no knowledge or American football.

That’s where I think this has not reached its portential. it won’t, in my opinion, draw in any new fans
 
AshLunn92 said:
The only thing that bothers me about this series is that I think it will only be interesting for city fans and to a lesser extent existing premier league fans.

The ‘All or Nothing’ series has usually had better production values and felt more like mini movies than ‘fly on the wall’ documentaries. If you watch the American football versions, they will grip anyone, even if you have absolutely no knowledge or American football.

That’s where I think this has not reached its portential. it won’t, in my opinion, draw in any new fans
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That’s the point I made about a lack of depth to the whole thing. A few sub-plots involving arguments or unhappy players would have helped. So would the actual story of the old Trafford tunnel bust-up.

I think the sanitised stuff will pull foreign fans though.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Sky sports radio ran the full trailer yesterday after the match with “Coming Soon”.
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Ooh, ta, so maybe it’ll be on Sky and we can record/keep it long term rather than see it a few times before the Amazon 30 day free trial is over?! Nice one
 
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