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Blue Maverick said:
I do wonder where this all ends, if it takes over peoples jobs and less of us are working, that means people have no money, so how do they buy these products/services that AI and their puppet masters control? Healthcare improves massively but who’s paying the taxes for it because we aren’t working, watching a video by an expert he likens it to the Industrial Revolution where machines took over menial labour intensive jobs but people then went onto do less manual jobs, machines replaced muscle, however AI replaces the mind, so what do people do then? I do fear for my daughters future and jokingly said a manual job electrician plumber etc maybe the only jobs that will give you a reasonable living but then everyone will be going into those areas.
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Don't worry about the jobs, it's going to take all the water...
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:

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Really impressive the visuals this guy is able to create with the help of AI. Imagine the films and TV we'll be getting in 10 years.
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Not to sound like I'm having a go at you mate, but that guy nor the AI created those visuals. Ai doesn't create anything it regurgitates work created by very talented human artists who often did not grant permission for their work to be used by the AI.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with regards to the copyright laws and monetisation of AI in the coming years because if it's pulling from artwork that's been bought and paid for by Marvel for example then where do you start drawing the line on infringement?
 
Main Stand Hotdog said:
Not to sound like I'm having a go at you mate, but that guy nor the AI created those visuals. Ai doesn't create anything it regurgitates work created by very talented human artists who often did not grant permission for their work to be used by the AI.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with regards to the copyright laws and monetisation of AI in the coming years because if it's pulling from artwork that's been bought and paid for by Marvel for example then where do you start drawing the line on infringement?
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It's a bit more than just writing a prompt what this guy does to be fair, he gets AI to generate the still images, he does the animation himself afterwards and writes all the scripts.

I agree with the principle of what you are saying though. We need to craft the regulations around AI very carefully so creative people get credited and compensated for their work. Sadly we haven't made a good start on that front.
 
Blue Maverick said:
I do wonder where this all ends, if it takes over peoples jobs and less of us are working, that means people have no money, so how do they buy these products/services that AI and their puppet masters control? Healthcare improves massively but who’s paying the taxes for it because we aren’t working, watching a video by an expert he likens it to the Industrial Revolution where machines took over menial labour intensive jobs but people then went onto do less manual jobs, machines replaced muscle, however AI replaces the mind, so what do people do then? I do fear for my daughters future and jokingly said a manual job electrician plumber etc maybe the only jobs that will give you a reasonable living but then everyone will be going into those areas.
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There does seem to be an increasing number of AI scholars now talking very directly about the lack of governance and control with emerging AI models and the potential dangers which definitely include mass unemployment and much more
 
doobyedoobye said:
There does seem to be an increasing number of AI scholars now talking very directly about the lack of governance and control with emerging AI models and the potential dangers which definitely include mass unemployment and much more
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They won’t put the breaks on though because whoever wins rules the world that’s why China and USA are pushing forward without checks and balances, which I think personally is not going to end well.
 
I understand AI about as much as I understand block chains.
Gone are the days when a simple layman like me could get how IT worked.
 
bluejon said:
This guy is always worth a listen, talking about this subject:
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I think that's a little apocalyptic but there's definitely a risk.

I've just been at a major Data & AI conference and the consensus view is that there's ideally a 20-60-20 approach to AI, with humans doing the first 20% of ensuring the input data to LLMs is correct, then 60% of the work being done by the AI, then human oversight of the output being the final 20%.

Technology has always thrown up new possibilities of doing things better and we have to adapt. We don't have rooms full of typists these days, we don't have to prepare accounts by adding up figures manually, or on calculating machines where you punched the numbers in and pulled a handle, like in my accountancy days.

One of the presenters, who was in the process of building an agentic AI system to manage insurance product reviews for her company. She talked about a concept she called "LLMs-as-judges", which I wasn't initially clear about, but she explained involved multiple LLMs monitoring each other. I laughed when she explained that, as Airbus implemented that concept 40 years ago on the A320. That was the first commercial airplane to use digital 'fly-by wire' flight control systems, replacing the mechanical hydraulic systems that had previously powered flight control surfaces. They did this by using three completely separate teams to programme these totally independently. In use, they would come to a majority view on the safest way to implement the pilot's instructions, nd if one did something stupid because the programming team had got something wrong, the other two could override it.

So, yes, there is a risk but we've also heard this stuff before, from the Luddites to those who thought computers would take all our jobs and we'd have loads of leisure time.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I think that's a little apocalyptic but there's definitely a risk.

I've just been at a major Data & AI conference and the consensus view is that there's ideally a 20-60-20 approach to AI, with humans doing the first 20% of ensuring the input data to LLMs is correct, then 60% of the work being done by the AI, then human oversight of the output being the final 20%.

Technology has always thrown up new possibilities of doing things better and we have to adapt. We don't have rooms full of typists these days, we don't have to prepare accounts by adding up figures manually, or on calculating machines where you punched the numbers in and pulled a handle, like in my accountancy days.

One of the presenters, who was in the process of building an agentic AI system to manage insurance product reviews for her company. She talked about a concept she called "LLMs-as-judges", which I wasn't initially clear about, but she explained involved multiple LLMs monitoring each other. I laughed when she explained that, as Airbus implemented that concept 40 years ago on the A320. That was the first commercial airplane to use digital 'fly-by wire' flight control systems, replacing the mechanical hydraulic systems that had previously powered flight control surfaces. They did this by using three completely separate teams to programme these totally independently. In use, they would come to a majority view on the safest way to implement the pilot's instructions, nd if one did something stupid because the programming team had got something wrong, the other two could override it.

So, yes, there is a risk but we've also heard this stuff before, from the Luddites to those who thought computers would take all our jobs and we'd have loads of leisure time.
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Well the guy in the video is the most cited scientist on the planet, he really knows his stuff. I'm deeply concerned about what's going on with agentic AI. It's stupidly powerful and we run a very real risk of unintended consequences, setting an AI in motion, giving it a task, but it doesn't perceive the logic in the task in the way it was meant to do and does something really harmful. The low level stuff is incredible however. I work with AI in the healthcare sector and it's transformational, on multiple levels, but the massive LLMs, being managed by agentic AI, is potentially really dangerous. We'll see how it plays out I guess over the next few years.
 
Haven’t a baldy with this technology but can someone put it into simple terms,is there a possibility we could go the way of terminator as in skynet taking control of everything..
 
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