BlueHammer85
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should be classed as a hate crime
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All Time Top 1100 Albums (Aerosmith - Big Ones) P265
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should be classed as a hate crime
chesterbells
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Not possible. Like saying you don’t like water.Or maybe some people just don't like the Beatles.
Innsbruckblue
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I’ll give side 1 a 9. Side 2 is much poorer, so just a 5.what’s ya score ?!
7/10 overall
chesterbells
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Well, I hope the time spent composing that post helped relieve the stress a bit then pal!While Rubber Soul and Revolver get the credit for being The Beatles “transitional” records away from mushy, mop-top pop and towards more "important", innovative, experimental stuff with something to say, you can start to see those changes take form on “Help!” I actually hadn’t really ever realized that before re-listening to this now.
I’ve always liked Lennon (and Harrison’s) tunes more than McCartney’s generally, and “Ticket to Ride” and “Help!” and “You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away” are all indications that John is growing up, turning self-reflective and getting bored with the same old-same old bubbly shit about girls. And even the same old-same old bubbly shit about girls like “I’ve Just Seen a Face” has a bit of an edge. It's remarkable how great these songs sound after 56 years and after having heard them 100s of times.
As usual, McCartney contributes one great song (okay . . . sometimes two great songs), and then a bunch of junk – he’s always been more uneven than Lennon. In fact, he’s damn near the wimpiest rock star in history. “Yesterday” is too classic to ignore but the rest of his input here is feeder.
Unfortunately, Ringo’s and George’s contributions are near the bottom of their particular barrels, especially George, who I don’t really think found his groove until “Taxman”, one of the best Beatles songs ever. The cover at the end is a total throwaway too.
So figure side one is a solid 8, with side two a 3 raised to a 4 by “Yesterday.” That’s a 6 then. I thought that maybe it might deserve an extra point because it’s The Beatles, and because it’s transitional, but I had a stressful week, so even the Beatles can piss off. 6/10
PragueBlue
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It's very possible. I just don't like the bulk of their music. No problem with those that do but it just does nothing for me at all.Not possible. Like saying you don’t like water.
Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Talking Heads
Remain in Light
2/10
Beth Orton
Central Reservation
4/10
David Crosby
If Only I Could Remember My Name
7/10
Def Leppard
Euphoria
2/10
Beck
Mellow Gold
2/10
Bad Company
Bad Company
6/10
Bob Dylan
Bringing it all back home
6/10
Aretha Franklin
Aretha Now
6/10
Carly Simon
No secrets
3/10
New Score
The Beatles
Help!
Score - TBC
I can't lie, I immediately pulled a face when this album was drawn out of the @BlueHammer85 F.A. Cup style bag of balls.
People are going to be writing pages and pages of eulogies Lennon-McCartney / McCartney-Lennon (I mean, music started and ended with The Beatles no?) - were my initial thoughts.
Thinking back, I don't think I will have listen to this album in full since I was about 15 at a guess (I am now 35).
Their overall songwriting ability on some tracks (not just limited to this album) is brilliant and possibly more impressive is the sheer rate that they flung them out - absolutely prolific.*
The night before - great vocal melody (turns out I dislike McCartney slightly less than I thought)
Ticket to Ride - brilliant, brilliant song
Yesterday - can't stand it (possibly just completely overplayed) but it is a great song
Some of the rest though, I can't be having. *The brilliance highlighted above in their song writing ability prohibits them from creating great albums (not particularly their fault but a sign of the times). Some of the songs are just air fillers and don't get me started on anything they get fucking Ringo to sing. I also find some of it hasn't dated well (but to be fair taking time, place and technique into it I don't think it should be marked down for that as they were pioneering to be fair).
As per usual, play the music not the band - 6/10 (was pushing towards 6.5 and rounding it up but nah it needs to stay at 6).
I also cannot stand that fucking film, it's wank and it weighs heavily on the music (They're like a shite version of The Monkees).
Whichever poster noted Lennon's voice, you were spot on. Lennon's voice is brilliant on this album - I wish I enjoyed the album more.................
Remain in Light
2/10
Beth Orton
Central Reservation
4/10
David Crosby
If Only I Could Remember My Name
7/10
Def Leppard
Euphoria
2/10
Beck
Mellow Gold
2/10
Bad Company
Bad Company
6/10
Bob Dylan
Bringing it all back home
6/10
Aretha Franklin
Aretha Now
6/10
Carly Simon
No secrets
3/10
New Score
The Beatles
Help!
Score - TBC
I can't lie, I immediately pulled a face when this album was drawn out of the @BlueHammer85 F.A. Cup style bag of balls.
People are going to be writing pages and pages of eulogies Lennon-McCartney / McCartney-Lennon (I mean, music started and ended with The Beatles no?) - were my initial thoughts.
Thinking back, I don't think I will have listen to this album in full since I was about 15 at a guess (I am now 35).
Their overall songwriting ability on some tracks (not just limited to this album) is brilliant and possibly more impressive is the sheer rate that they flung them out - absolutely prolific.*
The night before - great vocal melody (turns out I dislike McCartney slightly less than I thought)
Ticket to Ride - brilliant, brilliant song
Yesterday - can't stand it (possibly just completely overplayed) but it is a great song
Some of the rest though, I can't be having. *The brilliance highlighted above in their song writing ability prohibits them from creating great albums (not particularly their fault but a sign of the times). Some of the songs are just air fillers and don't get me started on anything they get fucking Ringo to sing. I also find some of it hasn't dated well (but to be fair taking time, place and technique into it I don't think it should be marked down for that as they were pioneering to be fair).
As per usual, play the music not the band - 6/10 (was pushing towards 6.5 and rounding it up but nah it needs to stay at 6).
I also cannot stand that fucking film, it's wank and it weighs heavily on the music (They're like a shite version of The Monkees).
Whichever poster noted Lennon's voice, you were spot on. Lennon's voice is brilliant on this album - I wish I enjoyed the album more.................
hilts
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Or maybe some people just don't like the Beatles.
Yeah yeah that must be it.
PragueBlue
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Yes, it is. Seems to me that 'it's cool to like the Beatles' is far more prevalent than the opposite.Yeah yeah that must be it.
hilts
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Yes, it is. Seems to me that 'it's cool to like the Beatles' is far more prevalent than the opposite.
Haha people have liked the Beatles for 60 years it’s hardly cool.
chesterbells
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And no problem with your post either, free of speech and opinion and all that.It's very possible. I just don't like the bulk of their music. No problem with those that do but it just does nothing for me at all.
However, not sure how much of their catalogue you’ve heard, but if you’ve heard the majority of it - or let’s just take the red and blue double albums as the benchmark - and you’re saying you don’t like the bulk of that, I’d say I’m sceptical and surprised, at the very least.