Am I just being a bad loser?

None of the things that bother you I give one fuck about.

Travelling to aways, speaking to fans of other teams at work none really spout that shite and normally have a good word to say for us and fans, the only people who believe that bullshit are those who have never set foot in a ground more than 3-4 times.

Empty seats jibe - so fucking what, I am not ashamed of any seat not occupied in pur ground to even try and defend this bollocks.

No history - I know our, blues/berts/legacy fans, whatever a city fan calls himself know our history, if others don't want to learn it to have an intelegent football discussion well they propably ain't worth talking to anyway so fuck em.

Well it's just oil money - well so fucking what, I never cared how many tellys Swales sold to buy trevor francis, I don't care what our income streams are now as long as legal and anyone obsessed with it needs to look up rotten meat, funding/arming terrorists, russian gansters and the blood diamond trade then at the 4 other clubs classed as elite in the prem, oil money pfft who fucking cares.

Laughed at when shite, slagged off when good, either way we have always had some negative or patronising press and opinions.

I mean how much of a **** was Elton Welsby every week on granada with snide digs.


Social media makes it seem more greater, but sociap media is full of bellends and **** tbh.

Most non City fans I have spoken with like you dont spout shit and say good things about us. All without doubt hate the dippers and rags.

Most hate the press/media as much as we do. Hate the way it's all dippers and rags.

Wearing my City 125 tracky top this morning in Tesco some knob just laughs at me as he walks passed. I ask "what's funny pal" he just outs his head down and walks of, I just laughed ! Must of been a rag or dipper.

Was talking to a leeds fan last week he wished is good luck and hoped City wont score more than 5 against them !
 
How is it strange that football to me is about more than winning?

Football fans of teams up and down the country watch their teams week in week out without ever winning the champions league or premier league. They obviously enjoy it for something else.

To get to the point where we are winning things consistently, the club has had to change. And some of that I don’t like. I’m suggesting I don’t always like that trade off.

The vast majority of Liverpool fans were stood up and sang for 90 minutes at Wembley and we hardly made a noise. We just don’t have that in us anymore, but I’m convinced we did once, I’m convinced it’s in there somewhere. Most games at the Etihad are pretty quiet, even big games - maybe that’s the same most places these days. Maybe I’m just reminiscing about Maine Road and times when trips to Wembley were rare. But there was definitely something sweet about beating United with Richard Dunne and Danny Tiatto when they had Gary Neville and Rio Ferdinand.

As someone who was at our game games against the rags and RM we werent quite.

As for the dippers at Wembley, look at pictures where are the gang ways between the seating blocks ? Why were they allowed to block the gang ways ?
 
There's an old song, that used to be sung at City, though I think it comes from one of the Glasgow teams:

'We don't care what the other teams say,
Why the fuck should we care?'

Sums it up really. Our rivals will never love us, any more than we will love Rags, Reddippers, Spuds, etc.
 
We’ve got no fans… well we don’t have as many as some, and as far as I can see that’s mainly because they were successful at a time when football became more global and money entered the game on a massive scale.

We have no history… everything is history, not just trophies. Everyone has a story, League 2 was part of ours, and our story does include trophies, some that we won before they had any themselves, but a reason why we don’t have as many as some is the same as the above.

It’s just oil money… to compete properly at the top, we had to spend big, we had to spend more than we have and more than we generate. We’ve probably broken some rules along the way, as well as being clever about it, but I don’t care that we’ve broken rules that are there partly to keep the status quo.
The story around our rivals 'history' isn't just about success, a lot of it is to do with high-profile tragedy. I think it's a good thing that we haven't lost any players or fans in horrible circumstances - if that's history, you can keep it.

Our real history - from inner city lads club to the greatest side in the world, from second division to Premier League champions, is incredible. We might be talked about entirely differently if we were successful and widely televised all the way through the 90s, but we weren't. By the time we were, the fashionable teams and the PL mythology had already been decided.

That means the quality of our diverse fanbase is not as dependent on success and glamour, but loyalty and local pride, even though we've got loads of fans all over the world. For a long time the only way to be a City fan was either to go to the games, or to be from the area. That has to be more sustainable than United's fanbase, who don't really know how to handle not being great, having developed much more around events or personalities - the plane crash, Best, Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo - which made being a United fan easy for them because the media and marketing hype machine supported them in it.

That popularity has become a millstone around their neck. It means that the ownership can monetise the club independently of success on the pitch. We don't have that problem. Which brings me to the money. Money has ALWAYS been part of the game, but it's not what you've got, it's how you spend it.

All ownership wants something out of a club, whether it's money, fun, or to advance a reputation. The idea that the first is purer than the second two is just nonsense. If City behaved like United or PSG when it came to signing players, then people could complain about the money. But the backbone of our team are generally humble blokes who came at a reasonable price before the club brought them on and added value. The money has been used to create structure. It's been invested rather than frittered away, and that gets other teams' backs up.

I'd just say enjoy these times for what they are, because in thirty years people will be saying how good they were.
 
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