America Bombs Venezuela

gordondaviesmoustache said:
And you didn’t answer my question.

Would you like to live under a regime like that? Simple yes or no will suffice.
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I was not raised there so I would not know any different. I cannot transfer my European values on their society or how they should live. They have been a civilisation far longer than most European countries. The revolution started there with our meddling in the first place.

It’s like asking you how would you react as a Palestinian if the colonial invasion of your land started and your land and territory was being stolen from you. How would you see and react to the settlers?
 
LesBleuMiserable said:
I was not raised there so I would not know any different. I cannot transfer my European values on their society or how they should live. They have been a civilisation far longer than most European countries. The revolution started there with our meddling in the first place.

It’s like asking you how would you react as a Palestinian if the colonial invasion of your land started and your land and territory was being stolen from you. How would you see and react to the settlers?
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I would respond with as much force as I could deploy, for as long as I could.

That’s answering the question btw.

The fact that you are unable to answer my question, and the way you responded to that question, suggests you are most likely a sociopath, so I’ll leave you to it.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Let's not forgot that Maduro nullified the results of the Venezualrn election that elected his oponent to power.
He ain't a saint. He's a dictator.

www.journalofdemocracy.org

How Maduro Stole Venezuela’s Vote | Journal of Democracy

Nicolás Maduro brazenly stole Venezuela’s 2024 presidential election, despite a free, fair, and transparent ballot count that showed a clear opposition victory. Why would an autocrat want to maintain…
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Oh. You mean the election Gonzales “lost”? The one where Nobel Peace Prize winner Machado was widely thought to be the one likely to de facto run the government given her popularity had Gonzales been installed as per the vote Maduro negated? The very same Machado Trump just literally said DOESN’T have the support or backing to run the nation? That election?

Of course he’s not a saint. But do you really believe Trump would behave any differently than Maduro in power were he not shackled but the long-standing tenets of American democracy? He already IS acting that way, 12 hours after Maduro was “captured”.
 
Strangerepublic said:
Most of the pre Ukraine expansion happened by the early 2000s, when Putin was barely in power and the Russian army was pathetically weak.

Russia became "paranoid" when NATO went all the way to Ukraine, organised a coup to overthrow a democratically elected Ukraine leader and started attacking Russian majority regions in East Ukraine

Most of the non- US bloc world have a good reason to be paranoid about the US bloc, as this week's events, or multiple previous invasions have shown.
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You’re not serious or if you are, your IP address is in St Petersburg you gullible twat.
 
Strangerepublic said:
"defensive alliance "
That expanded all the way to Russia in the 90s and early 2000s when Russia didn't have any military to speak of.

"If Russia does not invade any of the countries"
Which countries did Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Venezuela invade?
You are the one who is being intentionally thick.

Do you think the US would be fine with a "defensive alliance" between China and Brazil, Cuba, Venezuela?
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NATO did not attack those countries you fucking mouth breather.
 
i kne albert davy said:
The costs of building the refineries to process heavy crude may well have been sunk, but American companies are only interested in profits. The Venezuelan oil industries a complete mess productions fell off a cliff it will take billions to get back to producing significant amounts again all at a time when oil prices are low and demands flatlined and will most probably continue to contract.
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You’re so far off here.
 
Frankly it's all very depressing.

I had hoped things were getting better but sadly not. In fact in my rather lengthy lifetime possibly the only good things to happen are the collapse of the Berlin wall and the overthrow of South Africa's apartheid regime.

Before I was born there was plenty of good stuff as countries became independent from the yoke of the British, French and others.

Religion was on the back burner everywhere and fascism in decline.

Now we have fascism raising it's head in Europe and the US. And religious fundamentalism all over the place. Both Islamic and Christian.

And the responsibility for most of this I lay firmly at America's door and their obsession of eradicating communism. Whether it existed in a country or not. The result of this was a rise in fundamentalism in the middle east and Africa.
 
People can take the piss out of Starmer but sadly he and every other European leader are not going to say boo to anyone. Trump has ruthlessly exposed the weakness at the heart of European Security, NATO and the UN. European leaders badly needs to develop a backbone and start putting some moral framework back into geopolitics. The trend for the foreseeable future is that the continent looks weaker an weaker everyday in the face of unpredictable and contemptuous ally.
 
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I would respond with as much force as I could deploy, for as long as I could.

That’s answering the question btw.

The fact that you are unable to answer my question, and the way you responded to that question, suggests you are most likely a sociopath, so I’ll leave you to it.
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Regime change never works. I would not want to change some other nation state on the basis of what I want for myself. Colonial masters have long gone.

I don’t have to agree with your outlook and I think your views are well yours only and way off.
 
The international community is useless. Do what you're told. Dont kick up a fuss. Don't upset one of the big boys.

Weak as piss.

There should be an arrest warrant out with Trumps name on it, and it should be enforced the second he steps on another countries soil. Instead he'll be welcomed with open arms.
 
LesBleuMiserable said:
Regime change never works. I would not want to change some other nation state on the basis of what I want for myself. Colonial masters have long gone.

I don’t have to agree with your outlook and I think your views are well yours only and way off.
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Regime change never works ?
There was this time in 1945 where I beg to differ, and several times since to be fair.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Let's not forgot that Maduro nullified the results of the Venezualrn election that elected his oponent to power.
He ain't a saint. He's a dictator.

www.journalofdemocracy.org

How Maduro Stole Venezuela’s Vote | Journal of Democracy

Nicolás Maduro brazenly stole Venezuela’s 2024 presidential election, despite a free, fair, and transparent ballot count that showed a clear opposition victory. Why would an autocrat want to maintain…
www.journalofdemocracy.org www.journalofdemocracy.org
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I'm pretty sure nobody has ever said he is a saint on here, but let's not pretend this has anything whatsoever to do with the fact he isn't a very nice man.
 
moomba said:
The international community is useless. Do what you're told. Dont kick up a fuss. Don't upset one of the big boys.

Weak as piss.
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Unfortunately you're right how do you stand up to the more powerful countries in the world though, had we been more powerful in 1997 I'm sure we'd have told China to fuck off we're keeping Hong Kong, same way we can't directly front up Russia or the US anymore.
 
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