America Bombs Venezuela

west didsblue said:
You mean about them not knowing what’s going on?
I suspect they know a damn sight more than you do.
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You're in a country whose capital was sent into blackout, then struck, had their leader taken. Said country is very poor and has extreme levels of poverty and not very good internet.

How much do you think they know?
 
west didsblue said:
You just agree with his actions.
To me that makes you a supporter.
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What kind of thought process is that? I have a mind of my own and I can decide if I agree or disagree with the actions of a president. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I have to disagree with everything he does. What kind of cult mentality is that?

The list of things I disagree with Trump on FAR outweigh the things I do agree with him on.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Not sure the whole of Europe would want to be fronting up the Yanks to be honest unless we wanted to put vast amounts of money into defence spending and there's not much enthusiasm for that. American operates 11 Supercarrier groups the whole of Europe has half a dozen carriers. We just don't have the resources to compete any longer.
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You watched the two videos yet on why the US really really wants Venezuelan crude as 70% of its oil imports are heavy crude as the light crude they produce is no good for their heavy industry?
 
Gorbachev said:
Financially, Britain cannot be a geopolitical super-power without its now gone empire.

Had we kept Hong Kong, it would have bankrupted us trying to keep up with the defense spend needed to keep China at bay.

Plus, we don't have the oil/gas, farmland, minerals and precious metals to fall back onto either to be at least somewhat self sustainable to some degree. Russia and the US do. If Britain was to have sanctions put on it we would be utterly screwed.

Britain needs to focus on trying to be a beacon of education and business/finance sector, a Singapore of some sort whilst having a military on standby if needed in the same way Norway has.

We are chicken feed on the world stage nowadays. If you took London's economy away from the UK, it would be poorer in GDP terms than the poorest state in the US, Mississippi.

I am not particularly for it but I do think by 2050 we will have a Federalist Europe with Britain part of it.
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We are still quite rich in mineral deposits, which we stopped mining and sold off interests in the ones still in operation are from foriegn investors, we flogged off our national oil company which is making billions globally

also we have the lagest deposit of Lithium in Europe along the west coast from scotland to devon which is an untapped market only now being looked into.

We chose to abandon british production and sell our assets, and that is why we are now a weaker nation
 
Cigs&Alc said:
What kind of thought process is that? I have a mind of my own and I can decide if I agree or disagree with the actions of a president. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I have to disagree with everything he does. What kind of cult mentality is that?

The list of things I disagree with Trump on FAR outweigh the things I do agree with him on.
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Just to make it clear, do you agree with the World Police removing a sitting president and deciding that the natural resources of that presidents country should be taken out of the ground for his own countries benefit.

Or not?
 
urban genie said:
We are still quite rich in mineral deposits, which we stopped mining and sold off interests in the ones still in operation are from foriegn investors, we flogged off our national oil company which is making billions globally

also we have the lagest deposit of Lithium in Europe along the west coast from scotland to devon which is an untapped market only now being looked into.

We chose to abandon british production and sell our assets, and that is why we are now a weaker nation
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Should have followed Norway's approach with what they did with their oil.

We would be utterly wadded if we followed their path.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Not sure the whole of Europe would want to be fronting up the Yanks to be honest unless we wanted to put vast amounts of money into defence spending and there's not much enthusiasm for that. American operates 11 Supercarrier groups the whole of Europe has half a dozen carriers. We just don't have the resources to compete any longer.
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That's fair enough. The goal would not be to become a bigger military power than the US but to have the capability to extend a sphere of influence, restraint and deterrent across the world.

Greater capacity to influence things like Ukraine, Gaza and to be able to disagree with the US or publically repudiate it when it goes rogue. The fact is, European defense is controlled at the whim of the US. As you say, there has been no enthusiasm for investing in defense. We have allowed security and military across the continent to be degraded/outsourced to the point we are a vassal state to the US, despite our wealth and influence.
 
Gorbachev said:
Should have followed Norway's approach with what they did with their oil.

We would be utterly wadded if we followed their path.
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Actually we wouldn't with 14 times the population. No doubt we'd be in a better position but not to exploit the fields North of Scotland and West of Shetland since their discovery is a bit stupid economically as we are now dependent on oil and gas imports.
 
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Gorbachev said:
Should have followed Norway's approach with what they did with their oil.

We would be utterly wadded if we followed their path.
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Not really. We've got much less oil than Norway with a far bigger population.

People often seem to point to these much smaller states (Singapore, Norway, etc) as if they're a realistic model for a much bigger country.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Actually we wouldn't. With 14 times the population.
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True, but we would be a lot more wadded than we are now though I would have thought.

Norway puts it's profits in a trust as well which I believe is the biggest in the world.

Had we done that, the country would have recovered from Covid a lot better.

That trust helped Norway immeasurably during 19/20.
 
SWP's back said:
You watched the two videos yet on why the US really really wants Venezuelan crude as 70% of its oil imports are heavy crude as the light crude they produce is no good for their heavy industry?
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No is that the way off bit I know it imports from Canada and Mexico etc to met it’s refinery needs of heavy crude which it more than balances with exports of sweet crude. Reuters reported the cost to modernise Venezuelas oil production is estimated at 58 billion dollars Daft Donald’s said that will be financed by the oil companies? At a time when there’s a glut of oil, I’m not seeing it.
Oil consumption world wide is about 105 million barrels a day and forecast to slowly rise until mid 2030s when it peaks. Some estimates are that recoverable oil world wide is 16 trillion barrels so far we extracted 1 trillion so we aren’t running out any time soon.
 
moomba said:
Just to make it clear, do you agree with the World Police removing a sitting president and deciding that the natural resources of that presidents country should be taken out of the ground for his own countries benefit.

Or not?
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Well considering the "sitting president" is a dictator, I kind of do. I don't really like dictators.

The only way that we'll know if this is good is by waiting and seeing. This could be really good for Venezuela and it could be bad.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
SOUTH America First, apparently.

Never mind U.S. infrastructure, eh?

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A country that doesn't even invest in the infrastructure and societal needs of itself is gonna go on and fix another nation, and all done by those saintly hedge funds.

yeah this is strip mining at its most blatant not seen for a 100yrs
 
Cigs&Alc said:
You're in a country whose capital was sent into blackout, then struck, had their leader taken. Said country is very poor and has extreme levels of poverty and not very good internet.

How much do you think they know?
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Why don’t you just call them noble savages and be done with it? Or is this based on all your visits to Caracas?
 
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