Amrik Gill Jailed Again For Stealing From His Mum (P8)

[Lavinda Past]

He needs rehabilited, not only to curb his gambling addiction but reintroduced into society also with the ideal outcome him actually finding a job.

He also needs to pay back all the people he ripped off even if it's a nominal weekly payment until it's all paid off.

Will it happen?

I doubt it.

Maybe so... but that doesn't mean society shouldn't try to help him (and others like him) to rehabilitate.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

He needs rehabilited, not only to curb his gambling addiction but reintroduced into society also with the ideal outcome him actually finding a job.

He also needs to pay back all the people he ripped off even if it's a nominal weekly payment until it's all paid off.

Will it happen?

I doubt it.

Maybe so... but that doesn't mean society shouldn't try to help him (and others like him) to rehabilitate.

Of course they should try to help him, as that's the best outcome for everyone. But as I said earlier, you can only help someone who genuinely wants to help themselves.

 

[TommoCTID]

He needs rehabilited, not only to curb his gambling addiction but reintroduced into society also with the ideal outcome him actually finding a job.

He also needs to pay back all the people he ripped off even if it's a nominal weekly payment until it's all paid off.

Will it happen?

I doubt it.

Maybe so... but that doesn't mean society shouldn't try to help him (and others like him) to rehabilitate.

Oh I agree with you totally, I know he will get the help, what I meant was it's upto him if he wants to change, you would like to think stealing from his own Mother would be the the catalyst for this, we will see.

 

[peoffrey]

Re: Amrik Gill at it again

But you are not addicted to gambling - he obviously is.
I was not justifying his behaviour - I was replying to another poster who suggested locking him up for life, which is simply ludicrous, for reasons I stated.
Nobody is doubting how hard you worked for what you have, but this isn't about you - it is about a bloke who can't control an addiction which is destroying his life, and impacting negatively on the lives of others.
As a civilised society we try to change and rehabilitate such folk, hard as they may make that task for us.
If they don't change, and they reoffend, then we punish them and have another go at addressing their offending behaviour.
Unless you too see the solution to be locking up every single petty criminal in this country for life.

It's natural to draw on your own experiences when making a comment about others.

p.s. You haven't addressed the point that he had been on a gambler's awareness course and it didn't work. Is there a more advanced one?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Re: Amrik Gill at it again

But you are not addicted to gambling - he obviously is.
I was not justifying his behaviour - I was replying to another poster who suggested locking him up for life, which is simply ludicrous, for reasons I stated.
Nobody is doubting how hard you worked for what you have, but this isn't about you - it is about a bloke who can't control an addiction which is destroying his life, and impacting negatively on the lives of others.
As a civilised society we try to change and rehabilitate such folk, hard as they may make that task for us.
If they don't change, and they reoffend, then we punish them and have another go at addressing their offending behaviour.
Unless you too see the solution to be locking up every single petty criminal in this country for life.

It's natural to draw on your own experiences when making a comment about others.

p.s. You haven't addressed the point that he had been on a gambler's awareness course and it didn't work. Is there a more advanced one?

It didn't work because he clearly didn't want it to. Not in the sense that he was taking the piss (though he might have been) but that his urge to gamble was still greater than his desire to stop. Only when the situation is reversed will he start to get on top of his habit. If you ever talk to an alcoholic, they will never say they're cured, no matter how long it is since they drank. They know that one slip, the urge to have another drink that they fail to resist, could topple them back into the state they were in before they took steps to stop drinking.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Re: Amrik Gill at it again

But you are not addicted to gambling - he obviously is.
I was not justifying his behaviour - I was replying to another poster who suggested locking him up for life, which is simply ludicrous, for reasons I stated.
Nobody is doubting how hard you worked for what you have, but this isn't about you - it is about a bloke who can't control an addiction which is destroying his life, and impacting negatively on the lives of others.
As a civilised society we try to change and rehabilitate such folk, hard as they may make that task for us.
If they don't change, and they reoffend, then we punish them and have another go at addressing their offending behaviour.
Unless you too see the solution to be locking up every single petty criminal in this country for life.

It's natural to draw on your own experiences when making a comment about others.

p.s. You haven't addressed the point that he had been on a gambler's awareness course and it didn't work. Is there a more advanced one?

There are several courses available that address addictive patterns of behaviour, and anyone who's offending is related to an addiction will be offered these whilst in custody, but without knowing just which course he completed then it's hard to say really.
To tackle the gambling issue per se, then you have to understand the underlying reasons behind the problem, and deal with them, because otherwise you are just pushing the 'Just Say No' mantra, and it simply doesn't work.
There could be a multitude of reasons as to why he gambles, from boredom, through to excitement, through to low self-esteem, or more commonly a whole combination thereof.
Sometimes it takes more than one attempt to get to the route of such a complex issue, but for me personally that just means we have to try an alternative approach, if the only other option is locking folk up indefinitely for minor misdemeanours.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

can't they just tag him and set it to stop him going to betting shops, along with a refusal to serve him there policy a la pubs?

then set up a monitored internet and phone connection that triggers alerts should he try to access online gambling sites?

He also has to check himself in to a local station or whatever on a daily basis, and has a curfew or something else like that.

Would they not be better measures?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

can't they just tag him and set it to stop him going to betting shops, along with a refusal to serve him there policy a la pubs?

then set up a monitored internet and phone connection that triggers alerts should he try to access online gambling sites?

He also has to check himself in to a local station or whatever on a daily basis, and has a curfew or something else like that.

Would they not be better measures?

Good idea, but I'll give you 10-1 they won't do it.