Andrew Marr

Magicpole said:
I’ve been through this before, there ain’t any. Even the students, it’s because the Torieseant to charge them, they won’t allow our students to go for free so we had to respond or our ibi’s woujd be swamped. That’s down to the Tories.

We have 500,000 English people living here, that’s 10% of our pop, and more are set to come post brexit if we go for Indy. Why would they stay? It’s all right wing media hate. Don’t get me wrong, I would drive the cunts out, but Sturgeon likes them. :)

Stop believing the black propaganda mate.
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That is a complete spin on the facts magic . You are obliged under EU rules to treat all people's of all EU countries the same , I suspect you know this? So if you offer free higher education to your own you have to offer it to the rest of the EU countries. Which you do apart from English students. It has absolutely nowt to do with tit for tat responses as many other EU countries charge their students. The SNP choose to discriminate against the English students. That is fact. Your Unis should let all applicants apply and screen your applicants based on who is most suited but the SNP chose another path. I wonder why? I think Sturgeon and that odious fat women molester before her are both despised in England. They do you no favours at all. What did you make of the link to the Scottish economy I sent you? Have you just ignored it as it sunk your oil argument??
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
That is a complete spin on the facts magic . You are obliged under EU rules to treat all people's of all EU countries the same , I suspect you know this? So if you offer free higher education to your own you have to offer it to the rest of the EU countries. Which you do apart from English students. It has absolutely nowt to do with tit for tat responses as many other EU countries charge their students. The SNP choose to discriminate against the English students. That is fact. Your Unis should let all applicants apply and screen your applicants based on who is most suited but the SNP chose another path. I wonder why? I think Sturgeon and that odious fat women molester before her are both despised in England. They do you no favours at all. What did you make of the link to the Scottish economy I sent you? Have you just ignored it as it sunk your oil argument??
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We send more to the treasury than we receive, excluding oil.
 
mat said:
And the state broadcaster promotes them over all others.

Impartiality my arse.
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But they're very good on the sports front. I've never seen or heard another broadcaster jumping through so many hoops to make sure that everything is balanced and fair. Just look at their coverage of the PL. The coverage was fair and balanced when you consider that Liverpool cruised to another title and look set to kick some Haringey arse in the CL. I fully expect a thrusting endorsement for Klippity to be crowned MotY. Oh, hang on a mo, I think I have a few wires crossed!!
 
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joe123 said:
Not wanting to be governed by a tory government that is the polar opposite of you isn't the same as xenophobia.
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Wow, it's like the whole leave argument summed into one sentence but from the perspective of the Scots.

You just have to change "Tory Government" to European Union.
 
I would argue that our relationship to the EU is nothing like Scotland's relationship to Westminster, but I see your point.
 
joe123 said:
I would argue that our relationship to the EU is nothing like Scotland's relationship to Westminster, but I see your point.
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If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
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Absolutely brilliant

Exposes the hypocrisy and I am not at all surprised there has been no response/challenge
 
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Mëtal Bikër said:
If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
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Have you considered going into politics yourself MB? You seem to be a straight talker.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
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*doffs cap*
 
Whats the fucking point of watching this today, a chancellor who is out on his arse by wednesday and ian duncan smith and his vile bullshit.

Another week of talking marr about one subject and no real political debate or questioning.

Pointless show atm.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
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Scot nats want independence. But fiscal independence?.......er, not yet, she said. Hmmm....
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
If some are to be believed on here, Scotland pays more money to Westminster but receives less revenue back, answers to a higher authority than it's own Parliament, wants to leave the Union to become independent, would be a major financial catastrophic hit to their economy but being free of the Union is considered more important and "it was all lies" anyway by the union supporting media, is more socialist than it's capitalist compatriots so the two ideologies don't mesh, don't wish to call themselves part of the Union, are against many policies that Westminster introduces and generally considers themselves to be better than the rest of the Union and could survive on it's own.

IndyRef was like a trial run; the arguments are identical as were the criticisms used to deter people from supporting independence. They are just done from the perspective from Scotland to the UK Union than the UK to the European Union.
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However, the jocks voted to stay in the union, but England voted to leave the EU.
 
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