Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

[Fred_Quimby]

Has any one of these petitions ever worked?

It keeps it in the public eye.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It keeps it in the public eye.

What does that achieve?

 

[Vic]

Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham admits he is at risk of alienating City supporters amid his involvement in plans to regenerate Old Trafford.

Aintree-born Burnham attended memorials for Sir Bobby Charlton and the anniversary of the Munich air disaster at Old Trafford in recent months. "There are always risks for me in this scenario," Burnham said. "There are risks as an Evertonian being Greater Manchester Mayor.

"Yes, there are those risks but I have supported City and the city region has supported Manchester City and they have put a lot of funding into East Manchester and that should be recognised.

“The wider development around the Etihad is unbelievable. You think of the public money that created the stadium in that instance but they have sunk a lot of money into the facilities around that ground. That area is utterly transformed from the place I remember when I was growing up in these parts.

Manchester Mayor Burnham addresses risk with City fans over United stadium role

Andy Burnham is now a member of the Old Trafford stadium regeneration task force as Man United seek funds for a new stadium.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Is this supposed to be a positive thing in terms of best value for public money? "Lord Coe was involved in the transformation of Stratford in East London to host the London 2012 Olympics. The stadium is now the home of West Ham United."

 

[Vic]

3,412 people signed and won this petition

Oppose Government Funding for Manchester United's New Stadium

www.change.org

What government funding?

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

COMS cost £110M
77M came from Sport England
33M from MCC

City gave Maine Road to the council for development for housing and also agreed a 250 year lease payment based on attendance figures, which was renegotiated to a flat £3M PA fee a few years ago, plus City stumped up several million to complete COMS so football could be played
I think in total, including MR, City paid £33M

For its investment into the Commonwealth stadium, which would never had been built unless someone had agreed to take it over following the games, MCC received Maine Road and continues to receive the lease payments, which are now £3M PA and will have easily covered the £33M MCC paid back in 2000-2002

dont forget United declined TWICE to move into COMS, one as a ground share with us, the other just tghem

 

[JGL07]

I don't have to read the article, I remember it very well
City's offer was far more than the land was worth, and he would have brand new premises
In the end he was told it would be a CPO at the actual value, so he capitulated

But 90% of that land that the CFA sits on was hazardous

It was a ransom strip. The training centre site could have not have been assembled without the acquisition of a couple of parcels of land, both owned by (United supporting?) chancers trying to extract big money from City.

One even split his site into tiny chunks each apparently owned by people all over the world. That was all sorted out by the (threat of a?) Compulsory Purchase Order from the City Council.

 

[cheekybids]

Ha ha ha - just after we’d had our conservatory built in 2003 Richard Leese was campaigning in our area and commented on how nice it looked!

I saw that episode ;)

 

[Vic]

I’m not his spokesman but his answer to that very question was that it will improve train services in and out of Manchester from all of those places.

It's nonsense. There are a couple of Freightliners a day that would not go through Oxford Road and Piccadilly that can delay passenger trains.

 

[I'm Blue]

?

That was for the Commonwealth Games, not for City. Metrolink didn’t arrive until 2012.

The freight terminal land is being purchased for United’s new stadium. We’ll eventually find out who has paid for the freight terminal land.

The tax payer will also be paying for the new land the freight terminal will be relocated too.
One way or another the tax payers will be paying.
I’ll hazard a guess and say paying for both the land around the swamp and for the land for the new freight terminal.

 

[Vic]

They’re not talking about moving train lines.

Well, a freight terminal.

All of the land on the plans, which is currently owned by the Glazers, is currently single storey warehouses. The companies using these warehouses pay rent to the Glazers. It provides very little to the local economy. Trafford wharf is mostly industrial, in comparison to Media City on the opposite side of the ship canal.

They are giving up this industrial land for the re-development of new homes. And in return, they want the council to step in and give them the freight terminal to build a new stadium on. Because the land that they currently own, has a main road, the bridgewater canal and a railway running through it.

The company that own the freight terminal, have already purchased land in St Helens for a new terminal that serves the North West.

*They actually purchased it in 2022, years before Burnham and Scruffy Jim got involved.*

That link says "St Chad's railway line" for Chat Moss railway line so I wouldn't give it much credence. That firm might own the Parkside site where a new freightliner terminal might go but they don't own the freightliner site where the new stadium could go.

 

[bumbleblue]

Fucking dippers and rags. Two hairy cheeks of the same corpulent arse. SCUM

 

[cheekybids]

No, Andy. Quite the opposite in fact. The area has benefitted from the substantial investment from the football club after the Commonwealth Games, without which the city would be sitting on a derelict waste land and a pile of rubble, or at best a few shitbox PFI 'affordable' houses.

Ratcliffe and the Floridian Chuckle Brothers aren't going to put in a single penny of their own money into any 'regeneration plan' that benefits anyone but themselves.

Who will be funding all of the buildings outside of the stadium? The land is owned by the Rags but from the information provided they ended up with great roads, improved rail & massive stadium but no one has said who’s paying for everything else?

 

[cheekybids]

Are people saying they’re happy with the shit trains in Manchester? I just don’t see why there’s so much fuss over this myself as long as it is just assistance in moving the terminals. The money wouldn’t go to the rags, it would be the freight owners selling their land to the rags and then they buy land at Newton-le-Willows. God knows the rags are shit at negotiating a fair price for anything they’ll mess that up too.

I just hope the rags don’t decide to build a new stadium in Newton Heath instead, not that I think there’s enough suitable room there.

I don’t think people believe it. I think you’d have seen more support for Qatari investment as Manchester really would benefit.

 

[LongsightM13]

Still remember Burnham’s long deleted tweet chuckling along with his Evertonian mate about City being ‘a small club’. Around the time that game was called off when Arteta caught Covid
Always disliked us, despite filling his snout in the corporate seats trough on a regular basis
An absolute opportunist prick, parked himself in our city until he feels the time is right to strike for the Labour leadership
I remember his shameless hypocrisy and self interest around the Stafford hospital deaths scandal when he was health minister. Demanded a cover up to save his ministerial skin, while at the same time campaigning for openness and ‘justice’ for a certain club’s fans who might have lived in his then constituency and had some voting sway
An awful example of the worst kind of career politician and a human being - our city deserves much better

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Who will be funding all of the buildings outside of the stadium? The land is owned by the Rags but from the information provided they ended up with great roads, improved rail & massive stadium but no one has said who’s paying for everything else?

I'd love to know what kickbacks this **** is getting. It really does smell rotten.

 

[mexico1970]

 

[blueju]

The figures that are quoted about £7.5 billion pouring into the local economy are just plucked out of thin air. I think the next thing Burnham is planning is to tell us the winning sequence of numbers that are coming from the Euromillions lottery a couple of days before the draw

Another lie. According to the United consortium press release, the new stadium and investment around the ground will create 90,000 employment opportunities. Think about that, 90,000. Will it fuck!

Meanwhile the Old Trafford Regeneration Task Force has claimed that their plans would provide more than 90,000 employment opportunities.

He’s already laid about 90,000 off at the swamp, is he just going to re-hire them all?

 

[blueju]

Off the top of my head.

What Sheikh Mansour has contributed financially to.

Redeveloping the Etihad stadium.
The City Football Academy. CFA.
The South stand expansion.
The North stand expansion. On-going.
The Etihad Campus.
The Coop Live Arena.
A college, a leisure centre, and other local amenities.
The Collar site to come.

What the Glazser and Jim Redcliffe have contributed financially to.

(I’ll leave it blank)

Made a totally uninhabitable area into a completely liveable, vibrant hub for the people of East Manchester.

 

[cheekybids]

I'd love to know what kickbacks this **** is getting. It really does smell rotten.

If you are a hard up government then you should be negotiating hard, your land & stadium are worth fuck all without our help. You as individuals already show contempt to the uk by tax avoidance so we’ll take the land off you at a competitive price which will assist your building plans & we’ll take the OT ground to fund the roads for affordable housing.

You’d still end up with all the jobs & infrastructure but it’s a better deal for the UK.

 

[west didsblue]

Seems like a lot of unjustified hate or Burnham on here. Having read a bit more about it he’s not advocating public funds for a new rag stadium, just for investment in the area, and to be fair to him he has responded directly to people suggesting otherwise. It would be good if we could get more transport investment near our stadium such as a new railway station but I don’t think there’s any suggestion he isn’t supportive of that. Seems the people slagging him off are mostly disgruntled Tories or people who can’t recognise that he’s mayor of the whole of GM not just the blue half.