Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

[jrb]

If you are interested in seeing a cgi video of the proposed redevelopment of Oxford Road Train Station that will take 2 years to complete, explaining all the current issues and future improvements, click on the link below. The freight trains are mentioned in passing.(apologies for the pun)

A couple of CGI’s.

Longer platforms that can accommodate more train passengers, and allow longer trains with more carragies and seats to stop at Oxford Road.





When you click on the link below, go to the board showing the video and play arrow. Press the play arrow.

The turn back track change is interesting.

https://manchesteroxfordroad.consultation.ai/

 

[jrb]

 

[mexico1970]

If you are interested in seeing a cgi video of the proposed redevelopment of Oxford Road Train Station that will take 2 years to complete, explaining all the current issues and future improvements, click on the link below. The freight trains are mentioned in passing.(apologies for the pun)

A couple of CGI’s.

Longer platforms that can accommodate more train passengers, and allow longer trains with more carragies and seats to stop at Oxford Road.

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When you click on the link below, go to the board showing the video and play arrow. Press the play arrow.

The turn back track change is interesting.

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https://manchesteroxfordroad.consultation.ai/

They've airbrushed all the scruffy bastards out of their utopian ideal.

 

[.db.]

Something needs to be done. The Etihad capacity is going to be 62,000 soon. We’ve also got a 24,000 capacity indoor arena next door. We have one main Metrolink station that serves the Etihad. 2 more stations if you include Holt Town and Asda, but not many people use those stations on a match day. Bar that, it’s either a few buses parked up outside the South stand after the match, a walk back to town along the roads and along the canal, or get a taxi cab close to the ground.

Mereolink.

There are a number of stops within easy walking distance to Old Trafford.

• Old Trafford (Bury - Altrincham line)
• Trafford Bar (Rochdale/Shaw and Crompton, East Didsbury and Manchester Airport lines)
• Wharfside (Trafford Park line)
• Exchange Quay (Eccles/Ashton lines)

The combined capacities of the Etihad and Co-Op Live will be 85,500 from next year. Yet there is ONE Metrolink stop servicing one line (<Town:Ashton>), a handful of buses (none of which go to Victoria Station), and banned parking within a certain radius of the stadium with no Park+Ride alternative options put in place.

And then there’s nothing else. Your legs are your only other option to get anywhere.

Over in Trafford Park, United’s capacity is 74,000 yet they have 5 Metrolink stops close by connected to 5 of the different Metrolink directions (Town, Airport/EDids, Alty, TraffCent and MediaC/Eccles), a railway station, more bus routes, larger road network, water taxis on the canal in either direction from Sale and Town and even a ‘River Cruise’ from Town.

Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

And now they’re going to get even more investment to improve transport links there even further.

It’s an absolute fucking joke!

 

[.db.]

If you are interested in seeing a cgi video of the proposed redevelopment of Oxford Road Train Station that will take 2 years to complete, explaining all the current issues and future improvements, click on the link below. The freight trains are mentioned in passing.(apologies for the pun)

A couple of CGI’s.

Longer platforms that can accommodate more train passengers, and allow longer trains with more carragies and seats to stop at Oxford Road.

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When you click on the link below, go to the board showing the video and play arrow. Press the play arrow.

The turn back track change is interesting.

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https://manchesteroxfordroad.consultation.ai/

*Railway Station

 

[Worsleyweb]

Government money going into any of this while folk are dying in hospital coridors and in the back of ambulances while waiting to be seen is nothing short of a disgrace

This government truly frighteningly out of toxins nd out of their depth!

 

[urban genie]

Just to add to the discussion that's emerged on this thread on transport links at our home. It's important to remember that there have always been plans in addition to the East Manchester line on the Metrolink network.

As for the freight line west of the Etihad, when the stadium was built, the plan was to use that line for trains coming from Marple and to build a station next to the stadium on the west side. The public documents explaining the plan aren't online, but there are a couple of Greater Manchester transport maps from the late 1990s and early 2000s showing the then-proposed Metrolink line with a rail interchange at the station that eventually became Etihad Campus. The idea was jettisoned when European-style tram-trains became regarded as a better solution.

Thus, the plan became to convert the Marple to Manchester train line, which goes through Ashburys, to a tram-train operation with Metrolink frequency. That would require new vehicles which could use both the current heavy-rail line between Ashburys and Marple and then run on the streets on the current Metrolink lines from Piccadilly through the city centre. There'd also be a new street section from Ashburys through Beswick and into Piccadilly station, with a new Metrolink stop in Beswick. Ashburys and possibly the Beswick stop would be within walking distance of the stadium.

Tram-trains were trialled between Sheffield and Rotherham from 2017, and the trial was completed in November 2020. It was apparently regarded as a success, and the line used in the trial was given the go-ahead to continue to operate. TfGM publicly embraced tram-train solutions a decade ago as the key to Metrolink expansion and has commented on several occasions that the Marple line will be a top priority when the next round of developments occurs. Thus, we can hopefully expect this new Metrolink line to be built eventually.

However, what I hope may become the game-changer is the development of the Collar Site, which IMO is likely to be announced for 2026 to follow on from completion of the North Stand expansion and associated developments (we'll see, as I concede that my optimism over prospects for this project has been unfulfilled on past occasions). A Metrolink stop at Ashburys would, I hope, not be the sole improvement to accompany the additional facilities on the Campus.

Given that the use of the East Manchester Loop rail line has been proposed in the past, I'd love to see the idea reinstated on the basis that thousands of extra visitors to the Campus per day might transform the business case. I appreciate that there are reasons why it might not happen but, however dismally naysayers might denigrate the idea, I'll keep expressing my hopes until it's officially ruled out or otherwise becomes impossible.

on train stations near the ground, several times both Burnham and bee network have been asked to look into re-opening phillips park station which though overgrown is still there, people citing the CO-OP causing extra traffic nd a need for a Etihad Campus station.
it runs on the huddersfiled to Vic line, Bee network have said they have no intention in reopening, but personally think it's a stupid not to

 

[jrb]

The combined capacities of the Etihad and Co-Op Live will be 85,500 from next year. Yet there is ONE Metrolink stop servicing one line (<Town:Ashton>), a handful of buses (none of which go to Victoria Station), and banned parking within a certain radius of the stadium with no Park+Ride alternative options put in place.

And then there’s nothing else. Your legs are your only other option to get anywhere.

Over in Trafford Park, United’s capacity is 74,000 yet they have 5 Metrolink stops close by connected to 5 of the different Metrolink directions (Town, Airport/EDids, Alty, TraffCent and MediaC/Eccles), a railway station, more bus routes, larger road network, water taxis on the canal in either direction from Sale and Town and even a ‘River Cruise’ from Town.

Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

And now they’re going to get even more investment to improve transport links there even further.

It’s an absolute fucking joke!

You forgot another travel alternative to OT.

£15.

We provide the ultimate alternative for Match day travel to Old Trafford. Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking. The boat takes you from Ralli Quay, opposite Spinningfields to within a short walk of Old Trafford. The journey takes just half an hour, enough time to relax with a cold beer or two from our fully stocked bar before you get to the game.

Departure time is 1 hour before kick off from the other side of the river to Spoinningfields. We’re close to the train stations (Salford Central, Manchester Piccadilly) so you can leave your car at home and relax.

Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

 

[jrb]

The combined capacities of the Etihad and Co-Op Live will be 85,500 from next year. Yet there is ONE Metrolink stop servicing one line (<Town:Ashton>), a handful of buses (none of which go to Victoria Station), and banned parking within a certain radius of the stadium with no Park+Ride alternative options put in place.

And then there’s nothing else. Your legs are your only other option to get anywhere.

Over in Trafford Park, United’s capacity is 74,000 yet they have 5 Metrolink stops close by connected to 5 of the different Metrolink directions (Town, Airport/EDids, Alty, TraffCent and MediaC/Eccles), a railway station, more bus routes, larger road network, water taxis on the canal in either direction from Sale and Town and even a ‘River Cruise’ from Town.

Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

And now they’re going to get even more investment to improve transport links there even further.

It’s an absolute fucking joke!

Wharfside is a tram stop on the Manchester Metrolink's Trafford Park Line. It is located on Trafford Wharf Road, close to Old Trafford football stadium. It was originally proposed that the station be named Manchester United. It opened on 22 March 2020.

 

[kismet]

some of the posters on this thread have incredible knowledge of the situation

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Your last sentence. I don't believe a single word of that statement from the weasly scouse mayor.

The equally weasley Starmer at PM's question time stated that investment in 'Old Trafford' would benefit the whole of the north. Was that a just a slip of the tongue from the snake tongued buffoon?

 

[Marvin.]

The combined capacities of the Etihad and Co-Op Live will be 85,500 from next year. Yet there is ONE Metrolink stop servicing one line (<Town:Ashton>), a handful of buses (none of which go to Victoria Station), and banned parking within a certain radius of the stadium with no Park+Ride alternative options put in place.

And then there’s nothing else. Your legs are your only other option to get anywhere.

Over in Trafford Park, United’s capacity is 74,000 yet they have 5 Metrolink stops close by connected to 5 of the different Metrolink directions (Town, Airport/EDids, Alty, TraffCent and MediaC/Eccles), a railway station, more bus routes, larger road network, water taxis on the canal in either direction from Sale and Town and even a ‘River Cruise’ from Town.

Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

And now they’re going to get even more investment to improve transport links there even further.

It’s an absolute fucking joke!

There are 15 match-day buses running from Co-op college (next to the academy stadium) to various localities around Manchester https://tfgm.com/man-city/bus-network and the Etihad stadium is in Manchester. It's a 25 min. walk to Piccadilly station. Old Trafford is over an hour from the station. No one walks it apart from away fans who drink in town.

 

[.db.]

There are 15 match-day buses running from Co-op college (next to the academy stadium) to various localities around Manchester https://tfgm.com/man-city/bus-network and the Etihad stadium is in Manchester. It's a 25 min. walk to Piccadilly station. Old Trafford is over an hour from the station. No one walks it apart from away fans who drink in town.

That’s true about those buses, not enough buses go back to Town though.

Thousands walk to Town from OT though. Bars like Atlas and Deansgate Stn are only 30 min walk.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

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Can I ask where are those freight trains going and where are they from, I didn’t think compared to what we used to produce we still manufactured anything. :)

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Another scheme that's not relevant to the thread.

That’s the point it’s in Merseyside and not part of the current discussion as was discussed earlier in the thread so Mr Burnham cannot lay claim to this it’s in Liverpool.as previously claimed

 

[Dannyblue52]

That’s true about those buses, not enough buses go back to Town though.

Thousands walk to Town from OT though. Bars like Atlas and Deansgate Stn are only 30 min walk.

Although welcome 15 buses for a 50 k crowd.? There used to be loads at Maine Rd. Many more are needed or a decent park and ride scheme.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Can I ask where are those freight trains going and where are they from, I didn’t think compared to what we used to produce we still manufactured anything. :)

Southampton, Tilbury Docks, Felixstowe and Crewe, maybe other places.

 

[Blue Mist]

If the rags dont go ahead with their flight of fancy, will the government still invest in the area ?

If it is so important a project why do they need the rags involvement?

I honestly think it's just cheap publicity for both sides as neither can afford it.

 

[Gaz76]

You forgot another travel alternative to OT.

£15.

We provide the ultimate alternative for Match day travel to Old Trafford. Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking. The boat takes you from Ralli Quay, opposite Spinningfields to within a short walk of Old Trafford. The journey takes just half an hour, enough time to relax with a cold beer or two from our fully stocked bar before you get to the game.

Departure time is 1 hour before kick off from the other side of the river to Spoinningfields. We’re close to the train stations (Salford Central, Manchester Piccadilly) so you can leave your car at home and relax.

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Match Day Cruise to Old Trafford - Manchester United Cruise

Make your way to the stadium for all Manchester United home games without the hassle of traffic and parking.

www.manchesterrivercruises.com

I said years ago we could do this at city

 

[Vic]

I said years ago we could do this at city

Apart from the 7 foot wide locks on the Ashton canal...

How many thousands go by boat to the Swamp?