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The man who changed football forever says UEFA's Financial Fair Play system is illegal. Instead, he tells Richard Edwards, if teams like Chelsea and Monaco want to overspend, make them put the money up front - and charge them a 10% luxury tax...

Jean-Louis Dupont may not be an immediately recognisable name to football lovers, but the impact this bespectacled lawyer has had on the game since 1995 is incalculable.

Back in 1990, Dupont was a fresh-faced University graduate, combining his fledgling law career with his work at the European Commission. Then he met a little-known Belgian footballer by the name of Jean-Marc Bosman. Now, almost 25 years later, he continues to be the scourge of the football authorities.

When UEFA chief Michel Platini heard that Dupont was helping another little-known Belgian resident - this time an Italian agent by the name of Daniel Striani - in a fight against UEFA’s Financial Fair Play legislation, he quipped that the lawyer was “bored” and “looking for work”.

If history has taught UEFA anything, however, it’s that it’s never wise to underestimate a man who has already changed the course of football once and has had a taste for it ever since. For his part, Dupont claimed that his Bosman challenge was never taken seriously by the football authorities.

“I thought it would be a pretty small case when we started,” he said. “But the authorities refused to take us seriously. That is partly why we added the restriction on foreign players to the case, although it was clearly a restraint of trade.”

In short, Dupont released the beast that European football has subsequently become – a beast that UEFA hoped Financial Fair Play (FFP) would help contain. According to the Belgian, however, it’s doing nothing of the sort.

Dupont (second left), Bosman (centre) and the rest of the legal team celebrate victory at the European Court of Justice in 1995.
Dupont (second left), Bosman (centre) and the rest of the legal team celebrate victory at the European Court of Justice in 1995.

“When UEFA say that they want every club to spend what they earn you say ‘Yes, this is right’,” he tells FourFourTwo. “But you need to go into precise economic and legal analysis in order to reach the conclusion that it does not work at all.

“I know it looks like a good idea but it doesn’t work and it makes things worse.”

Dupont himself isn’t opposed to FFP as a means of preventing those who haven’t got the money from using football as a vanity project, before fleeing when the burden of debt gets too great. Ask any Portsmouth fan and they’ll tell you that might be a decent idea.

What he objects to is the idea that people who have the money and are able to spend the cash can’t – even if they can guarantee it.

Break-even

“We’re challenging one rule, which is the break-even rule,” he says. “This says that the owner of the club can’t overspend even if it is with his own money. This is not in line with EU law.”

The ‘break-even’ rule is perhaps the most fundamental element of FFP, but in the complaint filed with the European Commission in May 2013, Dupont outlines the impact it could have on almost every part of the game.

“The break-even rule prevents football clubs from freely determining their level of expenses, since it imposes a ceiling on their deficit, a limit to their investment, even if such deficit/investment is entirely covered by the owners. In particular, the clubs are limited in their freedom to hire players, since the break-even rule confines the amount of transfer fee and salaries clubs can offer.”

And the impact on the players?

“By the same token, some football players will not be transferred [as such transfers will not take place] and some players will be offered lower salaries. Even more, some players will not be offered a renewal of contract - even on lower conditions - or a first contract.”

Italian agent Striani rasied the complaint believing that he too will be hit by the regulations. So with another transfer window drawing to a close, what’s the alternative?

The sight of administrator Andrew Andronikou brings back bad memories for Portsmouth fans.
The sight of administrator Andrew Andronikou brings back bad memories for Portsmouth fans.

“That’s not for us to come up with,” says Dupont. “This is a matter for UEFA. But for the sake of the rationale, the current break-even rules mean that overspending is prohibited, it’s as simple as that. Yes, there are transitional rules but forget about it, the principle is that over-spending is prohibited.



Over-spending should be prohibited unless it is fully guaranteed in advanced. Put the money in the bank by the first of June for the next season"
- Jean-Louis Dupont

“We say that over-spending should be prohibited unless it is fully guaranteed in advanced. We will say that we don’t want a Portsmouth but we’re happy with a Manchester City. If you’re the owner of a club that makes 100 (euros) but you want to inject an extra 50 (euros) every year, you can do that but you have to put the money in the bank by the first of June for the next season. Instead of prohibiting overspending you prohibit non-guaranteed over-spending.”

And for those clubs that do rely on their owners to dip into their own pockets every season, Dupont has a novel idea.

“Since you want to overspend with your own club, then for every euro or pound that you over-spend you will pay 10 or 15 cents as a ‘luxury tax’ so there will be some sort of solidarity fund that UEFA can spend for the good of the game,” he says.

Economic scholars in agreement

Of course, for every regulation there are loopholes and clubs across Europe are frantically doing all they can to jump through them. For Dupont though, the argument is simple, and he tells FFT that he’s merely carrying out the action that others have been calling for since FFP was first agreed upon in September 2009.

“It’s not just me saying that this makes sense, it’s all the economic scholars that have written about it too,” says Dupont. “All of them say that when you look at the two objectives that UEFA supposedly is pursuing, namely financial stability for club football and maintaining the integrity of the game, those two objectives are better served with this alternative system.

“And I’m just telling you what I read before we even lodged the complaint. If we win it’s not the end of anything, it’s just that instead of having this rule UEFA will be better placed to make it efficient. It’s not a liberal fight saying ‘no restraint of trade the owners should be able to do what they want’.”

It was Eric Morecambe who memorably told Andre Previn that he was “playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order.” Now Dupont believes its UEFA that is out of tune with popular and academic opinion. “UEFA are fighting against the right problem,” he says. “But with the wrong answer.”

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...-dont-want-another-pompey#Zv7xcD5CMyhY5oE6.99
 
siathers said:
Petrusha's comments are accurate and helpful but I think saying they are the industry standard is a little much. CSAs are heavily used by IP dependent groups such as those in hi-tech and pharma (with US groups using them very frequently) but less IP rich groups (such as consumer products ones) more frequently keep the IP in one location and then license it to subsidiaries for a royalty (which is usually linked to turnover). I am not saying CSAs are never used but they are not as frequently used as licensing outside of the sectors I mentioned above. The net economic result should be the same as CSA participants own the IP therein and don't make the ongoing royalty payments that licensees do, as Petrusha points out. Obviously the issue with royalties based on turnover is that NYCFC et al would need to be earning in order to pay us, which they aren't right now. So a CSA buy in does accelerate MCFC income which might well have played a part in the decision to structure the deals in this way.

It seems to make perfect sense structuring the deal in this way. Many people on here have speculated whether MCFC will benefit financially from the NYCFC / Melbourne deals. There were all sorts of opinions offered as to whether we would own those clubs outright and but their income on our books, or whether they would pay us royalties to use our branding etc.

This deal is obviously the answer. By us "selling" the IP to a third party company, that allows MCFC to benefit financially, and also allows NYCFC / Melbourne to benefit from the brand awareness / loyalty of MCFC. Of course, it has to be a "related party transaction" as essentially we are setting up a group of companies / teams under the same City brand. We are not likely to sell that IP to an external company as it would mean we were no longer in control of our brand.

It would be very difficult for UEFA to say this does not represent fair market value 1. because it is unprecedented, 2. Because by any recognised means it would be difficult to argue City's branding is worth a lot less 3. It is clear that we are setting up a group that will operate under the same banner 4. It is standard practice in the corporate world to do that in this manner.

I was a little concerned at this transaction at first, but it now seems to make perfect sense, and along with the Etihad Campus deal, looks like another stroke of genius by our incredibly capable team of executives.
 
Quick question
Are we listed in the Fortune 500 n' if so, is it under the business name of The City Football Group ?
 
Maintainin said:
Quick question
Are we listed in the Fortune 500 n' if so, is it under the business name of The City Football Group ?

This is the new name for ADUG

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group</a><br /><br />-- Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:14 pm --<br /><br />
Maintainin said:
Quick question
Are we listed in the Fortune 500 n' if so, is it under the business name of The City Football Group ?

This is the new name for ADUG

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group</a>
 
mancity dan said:
Maintainin said:
Quick question
Are we listed in the Fortune 500 n' if so, is it under the business name of The City Football Group ?

This is the new name for ADUG

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Football_Group</a>

Drives me daft this. ADUG was a company setup by Sheikh Mansour as a vehicle to purchase Manchester City. It has no other business or investments and is wholly owned by Sheikh Mansour. It is akin to Red & White Holdings, Red Football Ltd, and others.

The initial confusion came from the fact that the press originally thought ADIA, who ARE a functioning company, took City over which is incorrect. ADUG doesn't own City any more than Red Football Ltd owns United. Sheikh Mansour owns City and Glazer owns United, and they bought these with companies that they setup specifically for this task that do nothing else. Wikipedia treats it as an investment company with many investments and it's not. There's never been a single shred of evidence to suggest this.

The City Football Group is a company that was recently setup as a way of moving Manchester City Ltd and a few other subsidiaries under a single group. It is still owned by ADUG because ADUG is literally just Sheikh Mansour. It is not the new name for ADUG.

The person who wrote that article is wrong as I have specifically pointed out to them but they won't change it despite holding no evidence to the contrary and they're a long term Wikipedia user, which in editing terms means that I can go and fuck myself with my crazy facts based on company records and accounts.
 
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As I understand it, City Football Group is the new holding company formed in the new structure. It is owned by ADUG and in turn owns Manchester City Football Club Limited and the other subsidiarie, including (I think) the NYC and Melbourne clubs.

And ADUG is not just City to the best of my knowledge but is Sheikh Mansour's private investment vehicle.
 
I thought MCFC owned NYCFC and Melbourne Heart. But the above suggests the City Football Group (or Mansour) owns all three.

Have I got that wrong?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And ADUG is not just City to the best of my knowledge but is Sheikh Mansour's private investment vehicle.

I've seen this opinion loads of times and had a bit of a bee in my bonnet about it, so looked into it.

It has never being reported as investing in anything else by any decent source of media that I have ever been able to find.
 
moomba said:
I thought MCFC owned NYCFC and Melbourne Heart. But the above suggests the City Football Group (or Mansour) owns all three.

Have I got that wrong?
Strictly speaking they're both joint ventures or associated companies as we aren't 100% owners of either the NY or Melbourne clubs. I thought City Football Group owns the stake we hold.
 
moomba said:
I thought MCFC owned NYCFC and Melbourne Heart. But the above suggests the City Football Group (or Mansour) owns all three.

Have I got that wrong?

As far as I'm aware, yes he does own all three. We sell our intellectual property rights (I believe, but this may be the wrong terminology) to NYCFC and Melbourne for large sums. This is basically because they are linked with us and as we are a global brand, being linked with us gives them huge exposure, and in exchange for this we receive money. As all the brands grow I imagine this partnership will procure more money. However if NYCFC was ever sold, say for £200m, then this money would go to Mansour, not city.
 
bugsyblue said:
moomba said:
I thought MCFC owned NYCFC and Melbourne Heart. But the above suggests the City Football Group (or Mansour) owns all three.

Have I got that wrong?

As far as I'm aware, yes he does own all three. We sell our intellectual property rights (I believe, but this may be the wrong terminology) to NYCFC and Melbourne for large sums. This is basically because they are linked with us and as we are a global brand, being linked with us gives them huge exposure, and in exchange for this we receive money. As all the brands grow I imagine this partnership will procure more money. However if NYCFC was ever sold, say for £200m, then this money would go to Mansour, not city.
We sold the IP rights to two group companies, City Football Marketing and City Football Services, which are part of the new structure. We couldn't have sold anything to Melbourne in 2012/13 as we didn't buy in until recently.

CFM I assume is our new commercial marketing arm with its plush new office near Euston and CFS is probably the centralised scouting and technical company. The sales could simply be the contracts of the employees, although I suspect there's more in there.
 
From memory the press info on the OS states that MCFC has bought majority stakes in NYCFC and MHFC

Its important for this to be nailed down either way because it makes a real difference to the way money goes out of and comes into MCFC for FFP reasons.

-- Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:16 pm --

AS I thought - from the OS press release -

Manchester City will be the majority owner of the new Club. As an investor, the Yankees will be an active member of the ownership group. The New York Yankees and Manchester City Football Club have an existing commercial relationship through Legends Hospitality, LLC, an international entertainment, hospitality and marketing organization.
 
Heard before on talkshite that at a meeting in Abu Dhabi it was anounced that City will break even this year ,if this is true the were well on the way for FFP , but it was talkshite afer all .
 
Soriano: Manchester City Will Break Even This Season

Loss-making Man City to break even this season - Soriano

(Reuters) - Manchester City will break even this season, their chief executive said on Tuesday as he refuted the idea their losses of 150 million pounds ($245.99 million) in the last two campaigns breached Financial Fair Play rules.

Since being bought by Abu Dhabi's Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan in 2008, the club have been transformed from a mid-table English Premier League outfit to one of Europe's richest.

City won the top-flight title in 2012, their first for more than 40 years, to emerge from the shadows of their illustrious neighbours Manchester United.

It came at a high cost though with the club spending 610 million pounds on transfers from 2008-13, according to their latest financial results, while the payroll rose 16 percent last season to 233.1 million pounds.

"We are working towards breaking even this season," chief executive Ferran Soriano told reporters at a conference in Dubai, adding that they aimed to be profitable within two campaigns.

City made a loss of 51.6 million pounds ($84.62 million) last season, down from a deficit of 98.7 million pounds in 2011-12.

New Financial Fair Play rules brought in by European soccer's governing body UEFA cap headline losses at 45 million euros ($61.41 million) in the two seasons between 2011 and 2013, the first monitoring period.

Soriano said City's deficits were within those limits. Clubs that do not comply could be excluded from the Champions League.

"There are a lot of reliefs that can be taken for investment in youth football and old investments," explained Soriano.

REVENUE UP

He said revenue would top 400 million euros (331.9 million pounds) this season - turnover in 2012-13 was 271 million pounds - predicting it would make the club the fifth biggest behind Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and United.

Much of City's new-found income has come from increased commercial revenue that rose by a third last season to 143 million pounds, and have risen almost 10-fold since 2008-09.

Four of the five headline sponsors listed on their website are Abu Dhabi-based institutions - telecom operator Etisalat, investment firm Aabar, Abu Dhabi itself and stadium sponsor Etihad Airways.

City owner Sheikh Mansour is the chairman of International Petroleum Investment Company, a firm that owns a majority stake in Aabar.

His half-brother Sheikh Hamed bin Zayed al-Nahyan is Etihad's chairman.

Third-placed City, who trail leaders Chelsea by two points, entertain fourth from bottom Sunderland in the league on Wednesday. <a class="postlink" href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/11/uk-soccer-england-city-finance-idUKBREA1A18220140211" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/1 ... 8220140211</a>
 
I've no doubt we'll break even in nexts years published accounts. If we increase revenue as much as Ferran Soriano states (topping €400M) then we could leapfrog PSG in Deloittes money league and possibly the rags if they don't make Europe and actually do splash the cash in the summer (or would that be in the following years accounts?). They would certainly lose out in matchday revenue & sponsorship bonuses.
 

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