Another gun massacre in the States (merged)

Re: Another gun massacre in the States.

ElanJo said:
mammutly said:
ElanJo said:
I'd like to see your statistical analysis for Australia murder rates because from what I am aware of there was no statistically significant drop as a result of the banning in the mid 90's.
IIRC, things like robbery and GBH rose as a result.

Considering the amount of guns in circulation in the US, the homicide rates are quite low, esp. when you consider the horrendous problems in Mexico and Columbia which spill over. What you'll find is that crime in the US is exasperated by drug prohibition. Researchers and economists have estimated that the majority of homicides would disappear if the US government ended this foolish drug policy.

As for the bold part, you should probably do some analysis at least.

Its not my statistical analysis and your awareness is absent and your recollection is wrong.

I don't often use such blunt terms, but your take on this issue is entirely contrary to all the available evidence. Its not a relative argument. If guns are banned, less people die. That is established fact.

Then post the Australian statistics.

Really? You were pretty blunt when making your previous stupid baseless claim.


I hope you'll agree this is a reliable source:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.aspx</a>


There are many websites reporting sensational claims about increases in violence etc following gun bans, but they're generally sponsored by the NRA, Glock, Smith & Weston or some such.
 
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True or false? This can also cross over into "is the media racist" discussion.
 
didactic said:
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True or false? This can also cross over into "is the media racist" discussion.

He is a murdering bastard, full stop.

What the fuck has colour got to do with this?

Silly me, just realised who the poster is....
 
That picture is taken off a website and not my design and it was followed with a question. About the medias perception of crimes based on ethic background. Feel free to not reply to it but do not attack me as I will not engage in petty battles any more.

There is an entire thread entitle "Is the media racist" which as I said this can cross over into. Keep your personal gripes to yourselves please.
 
didactic said:
That picture is taken off a website and not my design and it was followed with a question. About the medias perception of crimes based on ethic background. Feel free to not reply to it but do not attack me as I will not engage in petty battles any more.

There is an entire thread entitle "Is the media racist" which as I said this can cross over into. Keep your personal gripes to yourselves please.

Guy walks in to cinema shoots people has his hair dyed and apparently refers to himself as the joker

I would call that mental illness just like the black guy that ate someones face wasn't called a thug and was called mentally ill the other week
 
Re: Another gun massacre in the States.

mammutly said:
ElanJo said:
mammutly said:
Its not my statistical analysis and your awareness is absent and your recollection is wrong.

I don't often use such blunt terms, but your take on this issue is entirely contrary to all the available evidence. Its not a relative argument. If guns are banned, less people die. That is established fact.

Then post the Australian statistics.

Really? You were pretty blunt when making your previous stupid baseless claim.


I hope you'll agree this is a reliable source:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.aspx</a>


There are many websites reporting sensational claims about increases in violence etc following gun bans, but they're generally sponsored by the NRA, Glock, Smith & Weston or some such.

Those are the statistics which I am aware of. As I said, they simply don't backup your claim. Now there is a surprise!
 

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