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Mike D said:
And you two would know that being somewhere to the right of Thatcher. Maybe you should come out of your caves sometime and you will find that a lot of Labours policy to resonate with the public. So much so Johnson is quietly adopting them like more money for schools NHS and bringing back the railways into public ownership The latter would never have happened under Cameron or May?
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Have you seen the polls lately? Or ever?

Why do you think Corbyn lost his confidence vote 172 to 40? Do you think that was a figment of my Tory blue-tinted spectacles?

I've not heard of any Tory initiatives to re-nationalise railways. If there are any such, they are misguided, idiotic even. The railways are in DRAMATICALLY better shape than when they were nationalised and anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded, too young to remember or has completely forgotten how fucking awful they were before. And the more money for schools is electioneering, pure and simple.

Corbyn has changed NOTHING, merely fucked the Labour party for a decade or so. As soon as you've got rid of him and his cohorts (which is going to take you some time, admittedly), Labour will return to the middle-ground-supporting party we saw under Blair and Brown and then, only then, will it have a chance of appealing to a majority of people in this country. As I say, the inconvenient truth.
 
journolud said:
Is it not on the Parliament channel or news one? Where are those who have commented so far seem or heard it?

I agree it should be available to watch somewhere on the bbc are you telling me it isn’t at all?

To be honest though most people are just interested in whether it gets through or not. The time to object to what is said is gone
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It should be on the main channel as is their duty as national broadcaster.

Ffs they showed ronald reagans funeral in full on BBC one

Saturday kitchen should not take precidence, whether you can turn over to it or not
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Corbyn has changed NOTHING, merely fucked the Labour party for a decade or so. As soon as you've got rid of him and his cohorts (which is going to take you some time, admittedly), Labour will return to the middle-ground-supporting party we saw under Blair and Brown and then, only then, will it have a chance of appealing to a majority of people in this country. As I say, the inconvenient truth.
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Correct.
 
blueinsa said:
43 Tory MP's more than Labour currently so you are wrong.

Scotland could have had a Labour government now.
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Only after the expulsions though, not per the votes. It doesn't happen in reality. The problem is still the two party system. Moot point either way.
 
urban genie said:
It should be on the main channel as is their duty as national broadcaster.

Ffs they showed ronald reagans funeral in full on BBC one
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This.

It's an historical debate going on and the Beeb should be having it on BBC one. Rather than Tory K appearing on a 10 minute news segment spinning it for the PM.
 
If the PM wanted this to pass parliament he'd have given all MP's the 538 page document as soon as it was available, not just before the debate.

I get the feeling no one believes anything he says.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Corbyn has changed NOTHING, merely fucked the Labour party for a decade or so. As soon as you've got rid of him and his cohorts (which is going to take you some time, admittedly), Labour will return to the middle-ground-supporting party we saw under Blair and Brown and then, only then, will it have a chance of appealing to a majority of people in this country. As I say, the inconvenient truth.
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Corbyn has changed EVERYTHING, he has moved the Labour party back to its traditional and long held Socialist stance and is the Blairites realise their is up and are leaving. It was always going to be a long process taking back control of the party from the neo-liberal centrists. I expect he will leave the leadership after the GE, but at last the party is back in the hands of the membership and not a small cabal of anti-democrats. That is the convenient truth from the left. Now we have reclaimed our party, we have to reclaim our people who were sick of Blair and left in their millions. I am confident they will return because every day the media is getting more hysterical as they know it is coming.
 
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aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Wonder what that says about the government then? [emoji848]
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What does it say about this parliament who demanded a deal and when presented with one still wants to fuck about?

SNP, Lib Dems and others are not interested in any deal.

What does it say about them?
 
mat said:
If the PM wanted this to pass parliament he'd have given all MP's the 538 page document as soon as it was available, not just before the debate.

I get the feeling no one believes anything he says.
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I said earlier mate, I don't think he believes in this deal himself, it is a charade.
 
blueinsa said:
What does it say about this parliament who demanded a deal and when presented with one still wants to fuck about?

SNP, Lib Dems and others are not interested in any deal.

What does it say about them?
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Your post from yesterday on the letwin agreement:

blueinsa said:
The Letwin amendment on the face of it is reasonable enough for say a month to properly debate the agreement but what it shouldn't be is a stalling one to allow others to then keep tabling amendments to ultimately get the deal overturned by any means they can find.
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mat said:
This.

It's an historical debate going on and the Beeb should be having it on BBC one. Rather than Tory K appearing on a 10 minute news segment spinning it for the PM.
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Also bbc2 reporter refering to letwins ammendment as controvertial to make it sound negative is very bad reporting.
 
Rascal said:
I said earlier mate, I don't think he believes in this deal himself, it is a charade.
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His words are for a GE video, not a debate. Hes putting in snidey remarks about working together etc knowing damn well he's going to blame Corbyn and parliament for his fuck ups.
 
urban genie said:
It should be on the main channel as is their duty as national broadcaster.

Ffs they showed ronald reagans funeral in full on BBC one

Saturday kitchen should not take precidence, whether you can turn over to it or not
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I get your point but don’t agree. I suspect most people aren’t interested in the debate, those who are can obviously watch it if they want. Nobody is going to have their minds changed by anything said today, bias is more likely to be confirmed. On the off chance that a committed brexiteer realises today that Boris has sold us down the river then so what. It’s in the hands of Parliament now. I believe the vote is due during the City game later. I know which I’ll be watching
 
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