Another new Brexit thread

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bluethrunthru said:
Its just evidence of the level of disregard for the NBM CoC ......it was learned from the Brexit campaign.
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Just asking - as the pack gathers scenting blood

And before settling down to a family movie - when you are raising the stakes about CoC.....

Who called the other a **** first......??
 
west didsblue said:
The delusion displayed is on a par with Trump supporters. They literally can’t consider that they might have been sold up the river. Far too invested in it all.
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If someone gave me a good deal but lied to the rest of his customers I’d feel pretty uneasy about it

The Telegraph don’t care about the ‘rest of the customers’ and I don’t have access to the owners of that particular paper but what I’m interested in is the customer base - are they happy that their dear leader(I know they will pretend they didn’t believe a word in the first place) lies like most people breathe?

What would Johnson have to say that makes them think, whilst I am looking forward to Brexit I am disappointed that he is 1) the one to deliver it and 2) how worse their life would have been with the chaos of Ed Milliband

Anyway, hopefully we can do a deal with Argentina so I can keep drinking this Malbec....
 
Tb1981 said:
Says the person crying about everything
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Not crying mate - strong resolute and prepared for what is coming towards us all ............because I can see it I am not blinded by misguided faith in a concept I live in the real world.
 
BlueAnorak said:
So no recent comment on the German Federal Court (BVerfG) throwing a nuke into the Eurozone.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...ozone/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr
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Wrong court but "no comment"?

Vic said:
I've read the judgement of the German constitutional court. The judges recognise the principle of ECJ precedence and why.

"If any Member State could readily invoke the authority to decide, through its own courts, on the validity of EU acts, this could undermine the precedence of application accorded to EU law and jeopardise its uniform application. Yet if the Member States were to completely refrain from conducting any kind of ultra vires review, they would grant EU organs exclusive authority over the Treaties even in cases where the EU adopts a legal interpretation that would essentially amount to a treaty amendment or an expansion of its competences. Though cases where EU institutions exceed their competences are exceptionally possible, it is to be expected that these instances remain rare due to the institutional and procedural safeguards enshrined in EU law. Nevertheless, where they do occur, the constitutional perspective might not perfectly match the perspective of EU law given that, even under the Lisbon Treaty, the Member States remain the ‘Masters of the Treaties’ and the EU has not evolved into a federal state. In principle, certain tensions are thus inherent in the design of the European Union; they must be resolved in a cooperative manner, in keeping with the spirit of European integration, and mitigated through mutual respect and understanding. This reflects the nature of the European Union, which is based on the multi-level cooperation of sovereign states, constitutions, administrations and courts."

But the judges reckon the ECB asset purchase programme is ultra vires because they have not demonstrated proportionality (and make a distinction between monetary effects and political effects e.g. reducing interest rates for savers). But the judges are not just having a go at the ECJ for insufficient scrutiny of ECB policy; they are telling the German government and Germany's central bank and the German Parliament what to do to put it right.

It's rather like Farage (or some anti-capitalist group for that matter) got our supreme court to tell our government and the Bank of England to rethink the policy (Gordon Brown's) that got us out of a meltdown after the crash.

I can almost guarantee that those enjoying this judgement the most were calling our judges "enemies of the people" and support the Tories' plan to curb judicial review of government policy.
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Vic said:
So no recent comment on the Tory rebellion over food standards?

https://www.edp24.co.uk/business/fa...culture-bill-passes-through-commons-1-6652595

Plus, 2024 for abolition of current system of payments to farmers (based on CAP) but 2028 for any new scheme... the rural natives are not happy.

Even a border dispute between Welsh and Shropshire farmers.
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Nope no comment at all.

Hope you have had your three weetabix this morning Vic in preparation for yet another long day on here?
 
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