Another new Brexit thread

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

No it's using polite language so as not to offend what is bleeding obvious.

Not really a reason to leave the Eu tho is it?

 

[stonerblue]

There's dozens of accounts of him "struggling", blaming his sciatica, but i'm certain that sciatica doesn't affect your (slurred) speech as well.

He's a known pisshead amongst EU circles, the gif is just a superb example of it captured on film.

bollocks.

 

[BobKowalski]

The question is whether or not the UK is better or worse outside the EU and this is a side show by leave voters to avoid the question.

Yeah I know. There is a lot to debate including the wish for Leavers to bypass Parliament and ignore the outcome of the 2017 GE. Personally I don’t recall any campaign arguing that we should abolish Parliamentary democracy and opt for rule by an all powerful executive chosen by 140,000 people but hey the way history is being rewritten I’m sure someone somewhere will produce a gif of a bus saying precisely that and claiming this was ‘what we voted for’ and the usual suspects will give it enthusiastic ‘likes’.

 

[johnnytapia]

So why do you think it will be better mate?

The rate of immigration under the freedom of movement tenet was/is unsustainable and whilst a member of the EU we could do absolutely nothing about it. We'll be able to reduce immigration. I see that as a good thing.
I want no part of an organisation that helped put Greek citizens to their deaths through the actions of the EU "troika".
I will no longer have to help Neil Kinnock and his family drive their gravy train.
I will be able to directly influence all law-making, through the ballot box. I can't do this whilst we are in the EU. The EU commission draft EU laws. The commission is not elected.
I think history will prove the eurozone to have been an economic disaster. We will be leaving it and we will benefit from that.
On the downside, I'll have to try and remember how much 2 ounces of midget gems looks like.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

You have used that GIF rather a lot. Maybe you should also show one of Merkel 'shaking'?

I don't think Merkel is a total pisshead, could be wrong though.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Potentially alluding to the fact his statements could be nothing more than the ramblings of a drunk man.

We're getting there.

 

[johnnytapia]

Four decades of evidence? Four decades of total crap about the EU from the media, led by the Telegraph's Brussels correspondent in the days when he still thought the EU was a good idea (i.e, until it became in his personal interest not to support it).

Ah yes, it was the Sun wot won it and I did not know what I was voting for. Fank you for putting me straight.

 

[johnnytapia]

Less foreigners. He’s been quite clear on his thoughts from various posts I’ve read of his on the subject.

Fewer foreigners.

 

[Phil1]

Fewer foreigners.

Thank you.

 

[johnnytapia]

Thank you.

Le plaisir est à moi.

 

[smudgedj]

More to the point who fucking cares if Juncker likes to neck a bottle or two of claret or not. Trump is teetotal and has set up concentration camps for kids. I’d take a merry Juncker over Trump any day of the week.

 

[BobKowalski]

The rate of immigration under the freedom of movement tenet was/is unsustainable and whilst a member of the EU we could do absolutely nothing about it. We'll be able to reduce immigration. I see that as a good thing.
I want no part of an organisation that helped put Greek citizens to their deaths through the actions of the EU "troika".
I will no longer have to help Neil Kinnock and his family drive their gravy train.
I will be able to directly influence all law-making, through the ballot box. I can't do this whilst we are in the EU. The EU commission draft EU laws. The commission is not elected.
I think history will prove the eurozone to have been an economic disaster. We will be leaving it and we will benefit from that.
On the downside, I'll have to try and remember how much 2 ounces of midget gems looks like.

FoM is sustainable if managed and resourced properly. FoM isn’t even regarded as ‘immigration’ on much of the continent. If Greece is so incensed at the way it was treated then let them leave the EU. The EU Parliament is elected and the EU Parliament votes for the commission. The EU commission can be dissolved by the EU Parliament in a vote of no confidence. The Euro is the second most commonly held reserve currency. Seem to recall the BoE’s holdings in Euros is at a record high. Finally no one is stupid enough to base a decision like this on Neil fucking Kinnock.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Funny how lots of people look at my wife walking and think she's pissed when they have no fucking clue why she can't get up a step without help.

They do the same with mine, and she's no pisshead either.
Juncker is, It's common knowledge, so any earth shattering statements made by him are subject to ridicule/pisstake.
It's great on here, the outrage whenever the EU is lampooned, but it's perfectly OK to call Brexit advocates racists,
water off a ducks back for me, though, all par for the course.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

The question is whether or not the UK is better or worse outside the EU and this is a side show by leave voters to avoid the question.

We answered that question in 2016.
It's no good keep asking it and getting annoyed at gifs you don't like.

 

[Ban-jani]

The rate of immigration under the freedom of movement tenet was/is unsustainable and whilst a member of the EU we could do absolutely nothing about it. We'll be able to reduce immigration. I see that as a good thing.
I want no part of an organisation that helped put Greek citizens to their deaths through the actions of the EU "troika".
I will no longer have to help Neil Kinnock and his family drive their gravy train.
I will be able to directly influence all law-making, through the ballot box. I can't do this whilst we are in the EU. The EU commission draft EU laws. The commission is not elected.
I think history will prove the eurozone to have been an economic disaster. We will be leaving it and we will benefit from that.
On the downside, I'll have to try and remember how much 2 ounces of midget gems looks like.

You see the first part is utterly false.

We have measures to reduce immigration now. Immigration from outside the EU is larger than in it and even with those coming from Europe, should they not be able to prove they can support themselves and contribute, we can send them back to Europe. This is one of the special privileges we had from the EU. We can reduce immigration from outside the EU to 0, should we want to, but we don’t.

The government, this right wing Tory government at that, fundamentally chooses not to enact any of the above.

 

[Ban-jani]

We answered that question in 2016.
It's no good keep asking it and getting annoyed at gifs you don't like.

The question was whether we wanted to leave the EU or not, the option that secured the most votes didn’t determine whether we were going to be better off as a country.

It’s not gifs I don’t like, gifs are just an image. It’s the overuse of them by those unable to keep to a debate, as a coping mechanism for their idiocy, that I don’t like.

 

[johnnytapia]

FoM is sustainable if managed and resourced properly. FoM isn’t even regarded as ‘immigration’ on much of the continent. If Greece is so incensed at the way it was treated then let them leave the EU. The EU Parliament is elected and the EU Parliament votes for the commission. The EU commission can be dissolved by the EU Parliament in a vote of no confidence. The Euro is the second most commonly held reserve currency. Seem to recall the BoE’s holdings in Euros is at a record high. Finally no one is stupid enough to base a decision like this on Neil fucking Kinnock.

Freedom of Movement by its very definition cannot be managed. Otherwise you wouldn't be, er, free to move.
You clearly no little about how Greece was forced to remain in the EU otherwise it would have had its banks shut down by the ECB.
I don't vote for the commission. It's like me voting for my MP who then says, "Actually, I'm going to hand over the legislative reins to someone else and, yep, you won't have any say in who that is."
Eurozone unemployment rate: 7.5%. UK: 3.9%. Yep, what a resounding success the eurozone is.
My Neil Kinnock line was tongue in cheek. But demonstrates how some of every taxpayer's £ is spent.
Anyway, time to go and ride my bike on the beautifully asphalted roads (courtesy of EU funding no doubt) of the Cheshire Lanes.

 

[blueparrot]

Eurozone unemployment rate: 7.5%. UK: 3.9%

So neither EU membership not FOM has really harmed us, in fact seems to be fine. Yet you want my and my childrens FOM to be taken away from them.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

The question was whether we wanted to leave the EU or not, the option that secured the most votes didn’t determine whether we were going to be better off as a country.

OK, yes we do, and yes we will.
It's just a football forum mate, to pass the time and all that, whatever anyone says or thinks on here means jack shit
in the scheme of things, nobody is changing anyone's opinion.
The Gifs lighten the mood and add welcome levity IMO, but hey ho, take or leave them.

 

[BobKowalski]

Freedom of Movement by its very definition cannot be managed. Otherwise you wouldn't be, er, free to move.
You clearly no little about how Greece was forced to remain in the EU otherwise it would have had its banks shut down by the ECB.
I don't vote for the commission. It's like me voting for my MP who then says, "Actually, I'm going to hand over the legislative reins to someone else and, yep, you won't have any say in who that is."
Eurozone unemployment rate: 7.5%. UK: 3.9%. Yep, what a resounding success the eurozone is.
My Neil Kinnock line was tongue in cheek. But demonstrates how some of every taxpayer's £ is spent.
Anyway, time to go and ride my bike on the beautifully asphalted roads (courtesy of EU funding no doubt) of the Cheshire Lanes.

FoM can be managed given there are rules and caveats and it most certainly can be resourced properly. Greece can if it wishes either exit the Euro and stay in the EU or exit both. I imagine popular opinion is firmly on the side of exit and political parties are there to represent that? MEPs vote for the commission and also vote on new laws and regs. You vote for MEPs.

German unemployment rate is 3.0%. UK 3.9%. Yay the Eurozone. Reality is some countries do better than others. Don’t like the Eurozone then exit the Eurozone. We just spaffed £30m on contracts for a ferry company that had no ferries. That’s a lot of Kinnocks.