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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Now now, there's no need to be rude to each other. Let's leave the lost battle behind and move on together towards a vibrant rejoining campaign. Look after our star EU - we'll be back :-)

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Perhaps as a gesture of their warmth they might keep our seat at the table - in the hope of our return
 
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BobKowalski said:
What is it about the concept of ‘reading’ that you and your fellow Brexiteers have difficulty in comprehending?

Is it just your prefer an echo chamber, a room of mirrors where your views are endlessly reflected back to you?

Very strange, but here is how it works. US media interview Biden officials and get their views on a wide range of topics, domestic and foreign. I read these interviews and note the parts that relate to Europe.

This is not difficult, requires no particular insight from me and can be done by anyone. I urge you to try it.
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You need to have a word with this guy

 
bluethrunthru said:
Brexit 101

do you recall our experts on the German car industry? Those who were WTO experts and proponents of GATT 24? Or maybe those border experts who were suddenly and starkly shown that a shared border has two sides and two countries in control?

Brexit - full of know nowt experts
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Oh yes. GATT 24 - would have been a great idea if it was what they wanted it to be not what it was. Another example of where a bit of reading would have avoided a lot of embarrassment.
 
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Mëtal Bikër said:
She's now got to sell leaving a trade agreement with the EU and enter into negotiations to rejoin which could take years.

Vote for independence, likely lose the Shetland Islands, get a couple of years uncertainty outside the UK and EU unions, then rejoin the EU, adopt the Euro, join the Eurozone, Schengen, the massive debt contributions and EU budget payments. Sign me up.
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What's not to like
 
HM Govt of Gibraltar...

‘The treaty to be negotiated will deal with maximised and unrestricted mobility of persons between #Gibraltar and the #Schengen area.. almost at the last minute, the negotiation is successfully completed and the clock has stopped ticking. We are going to avert the worst effects of a hard #Brexit.‘
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Ohh not more bad news!
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Not for Gibraltar, sounds that like N. Ireland another part of the UK getting a better deal than some other parts.


The border will operate under Schengen agreement terms while the final deal is hammered out and Spain will be responsible for applying them, Gonzalez Laya said. Spain hopes the final agreement will come into force within six months, she said.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Got my fingers crossed that they can get something sorted before Bidens Administration takes the reins. Their narrative hasn't been too encouraging.
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Cos it’s currently Trump’s priority to propose a UK trade deal and both houses of Congress are going to approve this mythical deal in the space of 3 weeks.
 
blueparrot said:
Not for Gibraltar, sounds that like N. Ireland another part of the UK getting a better deal than some other parts.


The border will operate under Schengen agreement terms while the final deal is hammered out and Spain will be responsible for applying them, Gonzalez Laya said. Spain hopes the final agreement will come into force within six months, she said.
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With NI in the EU CU and Gibraltar now in Schengen, I suspect all the other non-England areas will be pushing for something similar before too long.
 
smudgedj said:
You need to have a word with this guy

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I‘m sure President Biden will be having a word, possibly a few words, like ‘I accept your resignation’.

Like shooting fish in a fucking barrel, or shooting UK fishermen in a trade deal with the EU...thought I would keep it on topic.
 
west didsblue said:
With NI in the EU CU and Gibraltar now in Schengen, I suspect all the other non-England areas will be pushing for something similar before too long.
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Think so, I know Scotland has voted to keep Scottish law in line with EU regulations where it has the power to do so. So thats 4 seperate relationships with the EU within the UK all creating internal barriers to go with barriers between the UK and the EU. I can see Scotland and Wales pushing to align with N.Ireland. Sure it will be ignored in London though.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Ohh not more bad news!
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BobKowalski said:
HM Govt of Gibraltar...

‘The treaty to be negotiated will deal with maximised and unrestricted mobility of persons between #Gibraltar and the #Schengen area.. almost at the last minute, the negotiation is successfully completed and the clock has stopped ticking. We are going to avert the worst effects of a hard #Brexit.‘
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Not more loss of sovereignty.
'ckin Ada!
 
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