Another new Brexit thread

[blueinsa]

why not give credit to the real culprits, murdoch dacre and the rest of the jingoistic racist media, it was them wot won it. Throw in cambridge analytica, Putin, aaron banks,
trump, farage, gove ids patel and the rest of the thatcherite rump, every one guilty of lying yet being ignored...wonder why?

HOUSE!

 

[blueinsa]

Tune.

 

[BobKowalski]

Will you be delighted to receive a Brexit 50p in your change or will you be insisting on insisting on it being replaced by 2 x 20p & a 10p?

People still use cash? I just waft my phone at the terminal for everything these days no matter the amount.

 

[west didsblue]

People still use cash? I just waft my phone at the terminal for everything these days no matter the amount.

The Brexit boys will get that changed as soon as they can. We'll be back to pounds, shillings and pence before you know it. Thrupnee bits, tanners, ten bob notes. Just like the good old days before we joined the EU.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The Brexit boys will get that changed as soon as they can. We'll be back to pounds, shillings and pence before you know it. Thrupnee bits, tanners, ten bob notes. Just like the good old days before we joined the EU.

Yawn.

 

[BobKowalski]

Anywho moving on from 50p bits Barnier has been giving Member States the big pitch to sign off on phase 2 negotiations which in no particular order are

No negotiations other than through Barnier
No upsetting the balance with existing models of cooperation, specifically Norway and Switzerland
Level playing field with mechanism to enforce transgressions
Future deal dependent on deal over fishing
Security deal important but UK can no longer access the EU information database and systems currently used by British police. Also European Arrest Warrants will not apply in Germany etc as some countries do not permit extradition to non EU countries.
EU to decide on equivalence (financial services) and data standards.

Points to note. UK wants zero tariff/zero quota deal which not even Norway and Switzerland get across the board so we have to give a lot to get that. There will be a return to barriers on trade between UK and EU though it’s just a question now of how great the barrier. Services will be impacted most and EU will only mutually recognise professional qualifications that are in the EU’s interest (obvs) otherwise its host country rules to apply which will vary.

There will be custom border checks between GB and NI which Varadkar helpfully confirmed this morning.

No great surprises in any of this.

 

[west didsblue]

Anywho moving on from 50p bits Barnier has been giving Member States the big pitch to sign off on phase 2 negotiations which in no particular order are

No negotiations other than through Barnier
No upsetting the balance with existing models of cooperation, specifically Norway and Switzerland
Level playing field with mechanism to enforce transgressions
Future deal dependent on deal over fishing
Security deal important but UK can no longer access the EU information database and systems currently used by British police. Also European Arrest Warrants will not apply in Germany etc as some countries do not permit extradition to non EU countries.
EU to decide on equivalence (financial services) and data standards.

Points to note. UK wants zero tariff/zero quota deal which not even Norway and Switzerland get across the board so we have to give a lot to get that. There will be a return to barriers on trade between UK and EU though it’s just a question now of how great the barrier. Services will be impacted most and EU will only mutually recognise professional qualifications that are in the EU’s interest (obvs) otherwise its host country rules to apply which will vary.

There will be custom border checks between GB and NI which Varadkar helpfully confirmed this morning.

No great surprises in any of this.

Presumably our starting point is that we want friction-less, tariff free trade to carry on as before but without freedom of movement of labour and without us making a contribution to the EU budget, whilst we're out of the single market and customs union and therefore free to make our own trade deals.
I'm going to have a guess who moves furthest from their starting point.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

why not give credit to the real culprits, murdoch dacre and the rest of the jingoistic racist media, it was them wot won it. Throw in cambridge analytica, Putin, aaron banks,
trump, farage, gove ids patel and the rest of the thatcherite rump, every one guilty of lying yet being ignored...wonder why?

Dunno, try asking the electorate.

 

[BobKowalski]

Presumably our starting point is that we want friction-less, tariff free trade to carry on as before but without freedom of movement of labour and without us making a contribution to the EU budget, whilst we're out of the single market and customs union and therefore free to make our own trade deals.
I'm going to have a guess who moves furthest from their starting point.

Probably :)

Although to be fair I think we have largely dropped the idea we will continue to enjoy frictionless trade and best we can get is zero tariffs. This will still leave non tariff barriers (standards, regs, rules of origin) which the Single Market eliminates.

I guess it’s just a question now of how much trade friction we can put up with.

 

[BobKowalski]

Interesting quote from Varadkar about the Brexit process and ‘colonial’ attitude in the UK