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Gaudion M said:
I think this is part of the problem with brexit. Leavers can be split into two camps:

1, rationale leavers, those that understand the issues (or some of the issues) but also want to respect the vote. They will want a compromise to minimise the damage and accept only a soft form of brexit will work.
2, ardent leavers, those unwilling to listen to any evidenced based assessment of the implications and want the simplest extraction of ourselves from the EU irrespective of the consequences.

The problem is that there is not the political will to drive either forward as they are very very different outcomes. Neither is sustainable and neither has any competent political force driving it.
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Doesn't matter now, If Boris wins then god knows what happens! Leavers of whatever variant, in fact all of us, will get whatever the fat fool dishes up.

if Labour wins or Swinson holds her nose and works with Corbyn, we'll have Norway versus remain. Farage and various lunatics will scream betrayal and urge a boycott and remain will win.
 
west didsblue said:
What makes you think that the will of the people isn't being respected. Successive governments have been trying to respect the will of the people for 3 years and their various attempts have been rejected just as much by Leavers as by Remainers. If the will of the people wasn't being respected the government would have fucked the whole thing off years ago and would have justified it by the clearly flawed process that contributed to the result. Everyone would have been over it by now and The Sun and Mail would be back to moaning about straight bananas and half litres of beer that we would be forced to endure.
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When you have a remain PM presenting a Remain deal in a Brexit wrapper and calling it Brexit its still actually Remain!

Many saw straight through what she was attempting to do.
 
Vic said:
Being in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border
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Yes, but they never specified the lattitude
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bluethrunthru said:
so thats it - peak Brexit peak Tory. A man has a go at Johnson - man is at a hospital because his child is seriously ill. He also happens to be a Labour supporter. What do those Peaky zealots do? Discount the sick child and call it a stitch up...............disgusting politics lower than a snakes belly. I bet none of the Peaky's would let a Corbyn visit to wherever they were pass without comment.
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For one second think he has a sick child and this is what he thinks is right to do.

He has also spent the day bragging about it on Twitter.

That is telling imo.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
When you have a remain PM presenting a Remain deal in a Brexit wrapper and calling it Brexit its still actually Remain!

Many saw straight through what she was attempting to do.
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If all that’s true and that is the way it’s been all along, can you not see that your whole process was flawed from the start.
Your system or constitution seems fucked to me.
There’s no winning. Nothing would please any sort of real majority in public at the moment and what the majority think they voted for won’t get through Parliament with a majority in any palatable form.

You’re a basket case as things stand. And there is no winners that I can see.
 
Neville Kneville said:
So what is your point about the Scots then seeing as 62% voted to remain ?

That's even big enough for Farage. He said it should be a 60 40 vote or another referendum.
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We voted as the UK.

They are a part of the UK because they didn't vote to be independent.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
If all that’s true and that is the way it’s been all along, can you not see that your whole process was flawed from the start.
Your system or constitution seems fucked to me.
There’s no winning. Nothing would please any sort of real majority in public at the moment and what the majority think they voted for won’t get through Parliament with a majority in any palatable form.

You’re a basket case as things stand. And there is no winners that I can see.
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I think you are getting me and the rest of the populace confused with the fools in Westminster when you use you're! If you listen to the media you would think the country is in turmoil as all they talk about is Brexit politics. But in reality the vast majority, in fact probably 99.99%, of the country are just getting on with their lives , doing their jobs , making money, etc. I can reasure you we as a country are far from a basket case.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I think you are getting me and the rest of the populace confused with the fools in Westminster when you use you're! If you listen to the media you would think the country is in turmoil as all they talk about is Brexit politics. But in reality the vast majority, in fact probably 99.99%, of the country are just getting on with their lives , doing their jobs , making money, etc. I can reasure you we as a country are far from a basket case.
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Well said.
 
blueinsa said:
So what?

Scottish independence lost yet all you hear is how they all want to leave the union.

Over 1 million Scots voted to leave the EU yet all you hear is how they all want to remain.

That was my point in reply to someone claiming that the whole of Scotland wants to remain.

No they do not!
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And neither do all the people of the UK want to Leave.
 
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