Well for a start, I didn't know he had.Yeah yeah of course Johnson is such an honest chal he was just jesting with the chaps over at the ERG about pulling a no deal stunt. But one simple question what pull the vote today ? Surely having that feather in your cap to go to the EU asking for an extension plus the momentum of would take the deal over the line. When all said and done it could quite easily be a couple of weeks and this would be done wouldn't it??
Just tell me one good reason why he has had to pull today ?
Well for a start, I didn't know he had.
But if he has, this is the first I've heard about it (I don't follow the news 24/7) and have had zero time to digest it. Off the top of my head, I'd say it was perhaps because the whips and the analysis being done had suggested he won't get the vote over the line, so decided he needs to work on MPs a little more before bringing it to a vote? Dunno, what are you suggesting?
One suggestion is that he was hoping to bypass the Benn Amendment by getting broad parliamentary consent for the deal and then filibuster it past the 31st.Well for a start, I didn't know he had.
But if he has, this is the first I've heard about it (I don't follow the news 24/7) and have had zero time to digest it. Off the top of my head, I'd say it was perhaps because the whips and the analysis being done had suggested he won't get the vote over the line, so decided he needs to work on MPs a little more before bringing it to a vote? Dunno, what are you suggesting?
You often talk of thougtful politics and then say things like this.
He is a Labour man, a Democrat whose constituency voted 70% to leave.
Him saying he will vote for the deal to represent that vote is entirely the right thing to do.
So Jacob Rees Mogg, who is a hard brexitter even though his constituency voted 57.9% to remain is not a democrat?
In theory yes, but the removal of it imo made it hard to vote for because it would appear it was being condoned. A position I believe that became untenable for Labour MPs, they couldn't be seen to condone it, it would have been interpreted as a betrayal of the working class and the media would have hammered them for it.I agree about Boris not being a brexiteer. He's always been a remainer . And an opportunist.
As for the removal of the level playing field on workers rights all that does is pass the responsibility of those from Brussels to Westminster . And that's as it should be , surely?
I can imagine it is a suggestion, but it makes no sense. As I've stated why would an egotist who craves power - if indeed that's what he is - want to ensure he presided over chaos and turmoil and his early departure. It just does not add up.One suggestion is that he was hoping to bypass the Benn Amendment by getting broad parliamentary consent for the deal and then filibuster it past the 31st.
I agree about Boris not being a brexiteer. He's always been a remainer . And an opportunist.
As for the removal of the level playing field on workers rights all that does is pass the responsibility of those from Brussels to Westminster . And that's as it should be , surely?
Why did he pull the vote today then? For what possible reason other than the numbers didn't work for him.It will.
The remain lot will then move back to the courts or their next plan of stopping brexit by any means.
They stood for parties that had as a manifesto promise they would leave the EU.
Yeah bitnyou have mentioned that 61% of labour constituencoes voted leave yet their MPs vote against the deal, so by rights Rees-mogg should be representing remain
I accept that Boris is hated on here so being positive about him isn’t going to be popular, but he’s played an absolute blinder. Made those who said he didn’t want a deal look foolish, and confounded those who said he couldn’t get a deal. He’s appeased Leavers by improving May’s WA from a Leave perspective and appeased Remainers by negotiating a deal. He’s made great progress on the domestic agenda and earned the respect of fellow leaders like Varadkar and Macron, who have found him thoughtful and capable of compromise. The nation is going to be outraged by the goings on today and won’t blame Boris when the extension is requested. In short, exactly what I was hoping for when he was elected.I can imagine it is a suggestion, but it makes no sense. As I've stated why would an egotist who craves power - if indeed that's what he is - want to ensure he presided over chaos and turmoil and his early departure. It just does not add up.
Or maybe he isn't an egotist and does not craves power? Either way, an argument suggesting some ulterior motive, does not make sense.
I accept that Boris is hated on here so being positive about him isn’t going to be popular, but he’s played an absolute blinder. Made those who said he didn’t want a deal look foolish, and confounded those who said he couldn’t get a deal. He’s appeased Leavers by improving May’s WA from a Leave perspective and appeased Remainers by negotiating a deal. He’s made great progress on the domestic agenda and earned the respect of fellow leaders like Varadkar and Macron, who have found him thoughtful and capable of compromise. The nation is going to be outraged by the goings on today and won’t blame Boris when the extension is requested. In short, exactly what I was hoping for when he was elected.
I wish ;). City time now mate, come on you blues.LOL
Drugs kicked in ?
This country is better than this