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Saddleworth2 said:
Both on a micro and macro level I agree with you. Until we learn how to gut, dress, prepare fish and shellfish it will be fish and chips and fish fingers for tea whilst so much that is wonderful is exported to those that value it.
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The thread has taken a turn for the better

My contribution:

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Bouillabaisse - I have this wonderful dish - full of catch from UK waters every time I go to....………… Cyprus!!

How daft is that?
 
mcfc1632 said:
The thread has taken a turn for the better

My contribution:

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Bouillabaisse - I have this wonderful dish - full of catch from UK waters every time I go to....………… Cyprus!!

How daft is that?
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Looks excellent. I'm not sure what the answer is. I remember a couple of attempts by TV chefs to publicise the rich larder we have available on our doorstep but until there is stronger demand for food that takes just a little effort to prepare I fear we will continue to import what we eat and export what we catch.

Anyway, for my part I am planning a seafood platter for Friday to accompany a nice bottle of Chablis. Mussels, Scallops, Langoustine, Crab and some smoked haddock all sourced from my friendly fishmonger + smoked trout that I catch and smoke myself.
 
bluethrunthru said:
But it really couldn't be simpler could it? Open the cavity and scoop out the innards. Wash and done. If the head bothers you cut it off - same with the tail. What I describe is a few minutes work.
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As a flyfisherman it is a regular job that takes a few minutes. The more you do it, the easier it gets. Filleting the fish is almost as easy. Gut it as you describe then cut near the head down to the spine. Turn your filleting knife 90 degrees and cut towards the tail down the length of the spine. Flip the fish over and do the same on the other side. Then its simply trimming the rib bones off the fillet, tidying it up and jobs a good un. Perfect for smoking. Helps if you have a very sharp and flexible filleting knife.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Not sure most folk here would know what to do with a whole fish unless they are fishermen nowadays. This is making me want to buy a few tomorrow and force my kids to clean and gut them just so I don't contribute two more citizens to the KFC generation.
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Thats a good idea. The younger kids experience the reality of food the healthier imo. If they enjoy that, skinning a rabbit is next. ;-)
 
mcfc1632 said:
The thread has taken a turn for the better

My contribution:

bouillabaisse%20marseille%20french%20food.jpeg


Bouillabaisse - I have this wonderful dish - full of catch from UK waters every time I go to....………… Cyprus!!

How daft is that?
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You got us back on topic!

No deal means the price goes up, or the UK suppliers and/or the restaurant absorb the tariff and red tape costs, or your ingredients come from a different country.

Unless of course the value of sterling falls by more than the extra costs.
 
Vic said:
Back on topic!

So no deal means the price goes up, or the UK suppliers and/or the restaurant absorb the tariff and red tape costs, or your ingredients come from a different country.

Unless of course the value of sterling falls by more than the extra costs.
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In addition, any red tape that delays such a produce is obviously going to cause problems. At the moment, you can land a Langoustine early morning in Ullapool and its waving a claw at you on the plate in Les Deux Magots, Boulevard Saint-Germain by tea time.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Looks excellent. I'm not sure what the answer is. I remember a couple of attempts by TV chefs to publicise the rich larder we have available on our doorstep but until there is stronger demand for food that takes just a little effort to prepare I fear we will continue to import what we eat and export what we catch.

Anyway, for my part I am planning a seafood platter for Friday to accompany a nice bottle of Chablis. Mussels, Scallops, Langoustine, Crab and some smoked haddock all sourced from my friendly fishmonger + smoked trout that I catch and smoke myself.
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And for my part - I am going to have a try at making a bouillabaisse myself

My 13 year daughter could easily become a fast food addict - I need to get her interested in cooking before it is too late

Anyway - back on topic - it is always good to have an asset that the other party places a high value on - and yet is of far less value to yourself.

There are very good reasons that the EU bangs on about fishing having to be included - May would have just given up the rights - thank fuck her and Robbins are gone.

Also - it is not as simple as to consider trading what the EU want for something that the UK want - I see the topic has having a far greater value in the negotiations than some crass game of swapsies and we should continue to simply state that it is off-limits beyond what we have already offered and show zero interest in accommodation.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Is this a bad news story?
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Only for the poorest in the country who will be less likely to be buying expensive fruit and veg. But it’s no problem for you and me.

Same story for Brexit as a whole. It’s going to disproportionately hit the poorest. Obviously you’re fine with that.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Is this a bad news story?
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You really don't get it, do you? These growers will be planting far less crops for next year. Far less homegrown food, far more imports (with tariffs), higher prices in the shops, some growers actually moving production to eastern Europe where the workers are (and paying eastern European wages so more profitable), lost taxes paid by EU workers, lost British jobs in the supporting industries (farm machinery sales and maintenance).

But hey - blue (black) passports.
 
Vic said:
You really don't get it, do you? These growers will be planting far less crops for next year. Far less homegrown food, far more imports (with tariffs), higher prices in the shops, some growers actually moving production to eastern Europe where the workers are (and paying eastern European wages so more profitable), lost taxes paid by EU workers, lost British jobs in the supporting industries (farm machinery sales and maintenance).

But hey - blue (black) passports.
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Yep you’re right. Not just more expensive fruit and veg but less UK jobs, less taxes paid, lower GDP.

That’s Brexit.
 
west didsblue said:
Only for the poorest in the country who will be less likely to be buying expensive fruit and veg. But it’s no problem for you and me.

Same story for Brexit as a whole. It’s going to disproportionately hit the poorest. Obviously you’re fine with that.
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Matbe these poor folk will be enriched by picking fruit for a decent wage?
 
Two points:
1. Gove is the Cabinet Minister directly responsible for EU trade deal negotiations. Frost reports to him first.
2. Nothing has been added of substance to this thread since I last read it.
 
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