Another new Brexit thread

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west didsblue said:
I responded to your list to which you didn’t comment. I then responded to your request for project fear items and you’ve come back with some bollocks about another poster. Discussion with you is pointless like the rest of the Brexit boys.
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Then why do you continue to do so?
 
west didsblue said:
Because your post was bullshit and didn’t merit a proper response.
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What was "bullshit" about pointing out that Nissan and Honda have plans to cease production on certain models due to climate change, and that Norton's situation is one that's been brewing since before Brexit was even a thing and completely unrelated to it?

You didn't merit a proper response because you don't have anything logical to counter it with, so you respond like a child.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
What was "bullshit" about pointing out that Nissan and Honda have plans to cease production on certain models due to climate change, and that Norton's situation is one that's been brewing since before Brexit was even a thing and completely unrelated to it?

You didn't merit a proper response because you don't have anything logical to counter it with, so you respond like a child.
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careful mate A few of the usuals are appearing.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
What was "bullshit" about pointing out that Nissan and Honda have plans to cease production on certain models due to climate change, and that Norton's situation is one that's been brewing since before Brexit was even a thing and completely unrelated to it?

You didn't merit a proper response because you don't have anything logical to counter it with, so you respond like a child.
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Yes we know no negative news could possibly be Brexit related.
And Norton was in the news 6 months before its demise as a huge Brexit success before it went bust due to Brexit and mismanagement.
Honda are shutting their plant rather than investing on EV and it’s far too soon to know what’s happening with Nissan other than they cancelled a new model that they originally announced for Sunderland only a year or so earlier.
 
west didsblue said:
Yes we know no negative news could possibly be Brexit related.
And Norton was in the news 6 months before its demise as a huge Brexit success before it went bust due to Brexit and mismanagement.
Honda are shutting their plant rather than investing on EV and it’s far too soon to know what’s happening with Nissan other than they cancelled a new model that they originally announced for Sunderland only a year or so earlier.
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I already explained that the owner tried to create some interest in the company and used the "Brexit wave" to do it. Norton's problems began years before the referendum, like 2012.

Honda are also shutting plants as a result of changes to the car industry. Their own 'CEO' stated this. Nothing Brexit related.

"This is not a Brexit-related issue for us, it's being made on the global-related changes I've spoken about. We've always seen Brexit as something we'll get through, but these changes globally are something we will have to respond to. We deeply regret the impact it will have on the Swindon community." - Ian Howells, Vice-President Honda Europe.

Yes it is far too soon to speak about Nissan's future in Sunderland, but that still didn't stop you making it about brexit, when they made no public statement other than to say that they were halting the production of diesel cars. No mention about Brexit influencing the decision.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
I already explained that the owner tried to create some interest in the company and used the "Brexit wave" to do it. Norton's problems began years before the referendum, like 2012.

Honda are also shutting plants as a result of changes to the car industry. Their own 'CEO' stated this. Nothing Brexit related.

"This is not a Brexit-related issue for us, it's being made on the global-related changes I've spoken about. We've always seen Brexit as something we'll get through, but these changes globally are something we will have to respond to. We deeply regret the impact it will have on the Swindon community." - Ian Howells, Vice-President Honda Europe.

Yes it is far too soon to speak about Nissan's future in Sunderland, but that still didn't stop you making it about brexit, when they made no public statement other than to say that they were halting the production of diesel cars. No mention about Brexit influencing the decision.
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It was KHW that mentioned Sunderland and I responded to that.
 
west didsblue said:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...hief-outlined-no-deal-brexit-concerns-in-2018

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/norton-motorcycles-goes-into-administration-1-6496163
Owner blamed Brexit uncertainty amongst other things.
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Ah yes, the impartial Guardian and NewEuropean. No, brexit was not the reason Norton went into administration. (PS, they've since been bought out of administration by TVS Motors so 'Norton' aren't going under.) https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2020/april/norton-sold-to-tvs

Honda themselves stated it wasn't brexit related.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47287386
Note, the Guardian article states that: "Honda repeatedly dismissed Brexit as a factor this week, saying its decision was “not influenced by Britain’s plans to leave the EU”, a claim cited by the prime minister on Wednesday."
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Ah yes, the impartial Guardian and NewEuropean. No, brexit was not the reason Norton went into administration. (PS, they've since been bought out of administration by TVS Motors so 'Norton' aren't going under.) https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2020/april/norton-sold-to-tvs

Honda themselves stated it wasn't brexit related.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47287386
Note, the Guardian article states that: "Honda repeatedly dismissed Brexit as a factor this week, saying its decision was “not influenced by Britain’s plans to leave the EU”, a claim cited by the prime minister on Wednesday."
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do not let the truth get in the way of the message.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Ah yes, the impartial Guardian and NewEuropean. No, brexit was not the reason Norton went into administration. (PS, they've since been bought out of administration by TVS Motors so 'Norton' aren't going under.) https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2020/april/norton-sold-to-tvs

Honda themselves stated it wasn't brexit related.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47287386
Note, the Guardian article states that: "Honda repeatedly dismissed Brexit as a factor this week, saying its decision was “not influenced by Britain’s plans to leave the EU”, a claim cited by the prime minister on Wednesday."
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Of course Honda said that. There are plenty of political reasons why they would downplay the role of Brexit. Doesn’t mean that Brexit wasn’t a factor as evidenced by previous comments.
 
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