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Another example of you taking the words of another poster and twisting them?

It is why I - and others - choose not to engage with you other than to correct
Vaccinegate was hilarious yesterday when they were trying to find spurious reasons why the EMA/EU isn't at fault.
They declare themselves victorious whilst providing only evidence of the opinion of a third rate radio hack. Another chips in and declares the existence of European Bank Holidays when a 30 second search disproves this.

I'm awaiting how they'll spin the banning of live animal exports.
 
I wonder if the penny has dropped now amongst our Remainer friends that the importance of fishing rights to the UK in taking part in these negotiations is not limited to the narrow facts of its %age of the UK economy, or that quotas have previously been sold, or that we different types of fish, or that we need to export, etc.

Surely, that penny has dropped for even the most die-hard of reality deniers?
 
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Vaccinegate was hilarious yesterday when they were trying to find spurious reasons why the EMA/EU isn't at fault.
They declare themselves victorious whilst providing only evidence of the opinion of a third rate radio hack. Another chips in and declares the existence of European Bank Holidays when a 30 second search disproves this.

I'm awaiting how they'll spin the banning of live animal exports.
I have just raised again the question of their understanding of the subject of fishing rights in the context of these Brexit negotiations - there has been a period of months when the usual suspects have not been able to resist exposing their lack of understanding in their need to find any avenue to deny reality as they run down the UK and present the EU as omnipotent.

Been (sort of) fun to read/watch them - yet here we are - at a point when it is being reported that some EU nations are calling into question whether Barnier is conceding too much at the tail-end of the negotiations.

Almost tempts me to post a comment on the likelihood of at which point it will be that we will see movement from the EU in negotiations and the conditions that will need to be established for that to happen
 
Vaccinegate was hilarious yesterday when they were trying to find spurious reasons why the EMA/EU isn't at fault.
They declare themselves victorious whilst providing only evidence of the opinion of a third rate radio hack. Another chips in and declares the existence of European Bank Holidays when a 30 second search disproves this.

I'm awaiting how they'll spin the banning of live animal exports.
Was that the discussion where you told us that the EMA moved from London months into a pandemic in 2019? You really need to stop digging.
 
Vaccinegate was hilarious yesterday when they were trying to find spurious reasons why the EMA/EU isn't at fault.
They declare themselves victorious whilst providing only evidence of the opinion of a third rate radio hack. Another chips in and declares the existence of European Bank Holidays when a 30 second search disproves this.

I'm awaiting how they'll spin the banning of live animal exports.
The banning of live animal exports is to be welcomed, I’m not sure it relates directly to Brexit though. In any case let’s hope it doesn’t distract us from the risk of importing dead animals from places where animal welfare and conditions are somewhat below the standards we currently apply.

Re the vaccine, what is it the EMA/EU are at fault for? Seems to be a bit of pointless dick waving going on there
 
Was that the discussion where you told us that the EMA moved from London months into a pandemic in 2019? You really need to stop digging.
Completed in Feb 2020. I guess it's a good idea if you don't like working bank Holidays and losing 15% of your staff.
 
I have just raised again the question of their understanding of the subject of fishing rights in the context of these Brexit negotiations - there has been a period of months when the usual suspects have not been able to resist exposing their lack of understanding in their need to find any avenue to deny reality as they run down the UK and present the EU as omnipotent.

Been (sort of) fun to read/watch them - yet here we are - at a point when it is being reported that some EU nations are calling into question whether Barnier is conceding too much at the tail-end of the negotiations.

Almost tempts me to post a comment on the likelihood of at which point it will be that we will see movement from the EU in negotiations and the conditions that will need to be established for that to happen

Article shows how the Irish have now been effectively shafted by the French who have a new IT system for monitoring movements at Calais.
It seems it can't distinguish between UK lorries & Irish lorries in transit across the UK landbridge so Irish trucks will be subject to precisely the sort of checks they wanted to see imposed on NI - all in the interests of 'protecting the EU single market/customs union'
 
It was rushed through and has had consequences. £500M lease along with capability.


Part of the EU's punishment beating.
You haven’t answered the question.

Did you really think the EU was going to keep agencies in the UK to save on some rent?

Delusional.
 

Article shows how the Irish have now been effectively shafted by the French who have a new IT system for monitoring movements at Calais.
It seems it can't distinguish between UK lorries & Irish lorries in transit across the UK landbridge so Irish trucks will be subject to precisely the sort of checks they wanted to see imposed on NI - all in the interests of 'protecting the EU single market/customs union'
"Shafted"? That implies something deliberate. It's an IT glitch and the article explains how the French are trying to "facilitate" ways round the problem.

It's quite odd when our choice to leave the single market is treated as if there's some malice by the EU in insisting that the SM exists.
 
I wonder if the penny has dropped now amongst our Remainer friends that the importance of rights of fishing to the UK in taking part in these negotiations is not limited to the narrow facts of its 5age of the UK economy, or that quotas have previously been sold, or that we different types of fish, or that we need to export, etc.

Surely, that penny has dropped for even the most die-hard of reality deniers?
Be warned. That's so obscure that any response could be twisting his words.
 
Yes, but more importantly, capability.
Yes they lost some capability that will take some time to replace, but there is no doubt that they will do this.

Why are you so worried about EU capability anyway? Perhaps you should think about all the capability we’ve thrown away by removing ourselves from the EU and all its agencies. That is what is relevant to us.
 
It was rushed through and has had consequences. £500M lease along with capability.


Part of the EU's punishment beating.
I think you've hit on a good Brexit metaphor.

EU damages its own interest (health research) as a matter of principle (that EU offices should be in the EU).

UK damages its own interest (everything, including its own existence as the UK) as a matter of principle (the delusion that we're the best country in the world).
 

Article shows how the Irish have now been effectively shafted by the French who have a new IT system for monitoring movements at Calais.
It seems it can't distinguish between UK lorries & Irish lorries in transit across the UK landbridge so Irish trucks will be subject to precisely the sort of checks they wanted to see imposed on NI - all in the interests of 'protecting the EU single market/customs union'
Coveney has felt the need to be in close contact with Paris recently.

Probably asking questions like - FFS, we agreed to be used as a weapon in negotiations - don't end up fucking us over

There is an increasing level of concern emanating from Dublin recently - not sure why? Surely the new direct ferry route has the capacity to deal with all this?
 
Did you not mention 50 years?
Show me the post and let's all see if you were/are twisting words

Certainly - if you can show that I have explicitly stated that it will require ".....50 years to see the benefit." - then you can be sure that I will have the strength of character to acknowledge that you were correct in your post.

If I only referred to Moggs comments, rather than expressed my own explicit view that it would take 50 years, can I be equally sure that you will have the strength of character to set the record straight ?
 
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Be warned. That's so obscure that any response could be twisting his words.
Its OK - you have already proven in all your responses on this subject that you do not have comprehension of the subject of fishing rights in the context of these negotiations

Your struggles have been quite amusing
 
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