Another new Brexit thread

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Psychedelic Casual said:
The only thing with that is, firms have already started their transition to adapt to the new Great Britain post-Brexit. Plus there are thousands of firms worldwide (1,441 from the EU itself) who have set up or will set up offices to Great Britain after Brexit. What would happen to them?
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Not if you listened to Radio 5 live this morning. Haulier saying that the Government are clueless. He doesn't know on the 7th December whether he will need a permit to operate in the Eu. His company were advised to apply for permits on the 01st November. 36,000 applications were received for 2000 permits. Since then crickets.

He doesn't know if he will need a permit & he doesn't know if he's got a permit.But somehow he's supposed to reassure his customers that he will still be able to import the raw materials needed for manufacture and then export the finished article.

Should he book ferries etc? Time schedule his drivers ?
 
And there's more...

Something about a FTZ from Iceland to the Russian border and we will still be in it.

What you won't find is anything about having a viable walk-away option and the political will to use it.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Not if you listened to Radio 5 live this morning. Haulier saying that the Government are clueless. He doesn't know on the 7th December whether he will need a permit to operate in the Eu. His company were advised to apply for permits on the 01st November. 36,000 applications were received for 2000 permits. Since then crickets.

He doesn't know if he will need a permit & he doesn't know if he's got a permit.But somehow he's supposed to reassure his customers that he will still be able to import the raw materials needed for manufacture and then export the finished article.

Should he book ferries etc? Time schedule his drivers ?
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It's almost as if no one is listening to remainers anymore or even heeding the warnings of such impartial and informed industry spokesmen. I sometimes wonder if the Govt even read the guardian, FT or twitter?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Been a while since I heard that one... makes me feel all nostalgic.

That question was answered in the 2019 General Election. We were both presented with how each potential government would deal with the Brexit issue. It was in effect the 'brexit election', and the public sided with the Conservatives.

"Get brexit done" won over "choose between our deal or remaining and we would still campaign to remain". Nobody could say they didn't know the terms anymore, nobody could hide behind that level of ignorance. We all made the choice based on what each political party argued and nationally, the choice was to continue with what the result of 2016's referendum had decided.

Or do we just keep having referendums and constant political turmoil until people get the decision they want? We'd be in and out of the EU like a yo-yo.
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It wasn't quite as clear as a brexit election. Many voted tory simply to prevent Labour winning rather than pursuing exercising their view on Brexit.

I think it is bonkers that the govt is still going off a mandate from 2016. We have had 2 PMs since and not sure what people were actually voting for.

The EU is heavily undemocratic and corrupt. Nobody in the UK voted for the chancellor. I have seen first hand large European companies lobby (aggressively) to push through their agenda stealing market share from smaller UK companies. I'm also not sure why a trading bloc requires an anthem or an army. But I just don't think the price we will pay economically and the restrictions we will face with travel is worth the cost of "independence". Having seen how corrupt our own govt is, why are people offended by EU corruption?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's almost as if no one is listening to remainers anymore or even heeding the warnings of such impartial and informed industry spokesmen. I sometimes wonder if the Govt even read the guardian, FT or twitter?
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What medium would you use to get the government to listen to impartial and informed industry spokesmen? A megaphone? Two tin cans on a piece of string? (They're not impartial - they've always known Brexit is crap, and hard Brexit very crap, and No Deal utter crap.)
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's almost as if no one is listening to remainers anymore or even heeding the warnings of such impartial and informed industry spokesmen. I sometimes wonder if the Govt even read the guardian, FT or twitter?
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Do you suspect the haulier is overegging the situation for political purposes or has been hand picked as the only one facing these issues while all the rest don’t have a Brexit care in the world?
 
Vic said:
Not sure about the BBC. They've had Bernard Jenkin and James Cleverly on in the last 30 minutes both burbling about independence.
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This is my problem. They will push a "No Deal" solely to appease old retired voters and claim we are now "independent".

Bollocks to the economy and those who will feel the consequences.
 
journolud said:
Do you suspect the haulier is overegging the situation for political purposes or has been hand picked as the only one facing these issues while all the rest don’t have a Brexit care in the world?
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That's a terrible thing to suggest. We are lucky to have him to speak up on behalf of the rest of the industry that seems to be blindly careering towards Jan 1St without a care in the world. The French are as bad - they've not even started to build lorry parks yet and it's December.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's almost as if no one is listening to remainers anymore or even heeding the warnings of such impartial and informed industry spokesmen. I sometimes wonder if the Govt even read the guardian, FT or twitter?
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Another ludicrous comment to add to a long series of ludicrous comments. Or is this just your way of injecting humour into the discussion again?
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
That's a terrible thing to suggest. We are lucky to have him to speak up on behalf of the rest of the industry that seems to be blindly careering towards Jan 1St without a care in the world. The French are as bad - they've not even started to build lorry parks yet and it's December.
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Oh look, another one. Sides splitting here.
 
I see we are back to no one knows what the hell is going on.

24 days and counting. Some bright spark should have done a Brexit Advent calendar. Behind today’s door you could have a fish slipping away...
 
BobKowalski said:
I see we are back to no one knows what the hell is going on.

24 days and counting. Some bright spark should have done a Brexit Advent calendar. Behind today’s door you could have a fish slipping away...
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Ive got a Brexit calendar Bob ..... but behind every door , instead of chocolate, its Panadol Extra. Oh and Ive just noticed that its got no wise men
 
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