Another new Brexit thread

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Mëtal Bikër said:
Correct. I'm being asked by the usual few to lament over slight changes to abroad holiday travel as being more serious than it actually is, and once again my lack of being able to travel abroad is being used as a mechanism to dismiss me from the discussion.

That's my objection.
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The irony for all of us(some worse than others, you know who you are;-) is that whatever time wasted on little things post brexit it will be nowhere the amount of time we waste our lives on here arguing about something we have no control of.
 
meltonblue said:
Exactly my brother in laws situation. No certainty at all to when that’s going to change either. His concerns, and my concerns for him, a holiday isn’t anywhere remotely near the list.
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Same here, yet for some on here it's a biiig concern about brexit...
 
And I get that and to you, their concerns will seem trivial. It doesn’t mean it is to them though, everyone’s perception is different. First world problems and all that. They will perceive a degradation to their position and no benefit to yours either.
 
meltonblue said:
And I get that and to you, their concerns will seem trivial. It doesn’t mean it is to them though, everyone’s perception is different. First world problems and all that. They will perceive a degradation to their position and no benefit to yours either.
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These have been the same people who have for years disregarded mine and other intentions as "trivial" remember.
 
meltonblue said:
And I get that and to you, their concerns will seem trivial. It doesn’t mean it is to them though, everyone’s perception is different. First world problems and all that. They will perceive a degradation to their position and no benefit to yours either.
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That last sentence sums it up for me, I can’t see how people will benefit from it, if anything I believe it will lead to job losses.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
These have been the same people who have for years disregarded mine and other intentions as "trivial" remember.
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I imagine people that do that are the same that still lump people into the sole two brackets of remain and leave, given intentions is again something that differs from individual to individual.

Whether what’s being delivered can fulfil those intentions or instead is trivial is where the debate should have progressed to straight after the referendum. Unfortunately, the discourse and general debate over brexit has gone down similar lines of lack of progression as parliaments did, hence the debate never properly moved on to the next level.

Its been my biggest issue with the whole thing - a lack of properly understanding and acknowledging intentions. It’s the only way the divide will ever begin to get bridged and the only way we would have ended up with the right form of brexit for the majority. In the meantime, we risk having a government taking advantage of that divide and implementing a version of it for their own intentions with the majority getting screwed.
 
meltonblue said:
still lump people into the sole two brackets of remain and leave
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There is no Remain - we left at the end of January

meltonblue said:
we risk having a government taking advantage of that divide and implementing a version of it for their own intentions with the majority getting screwed.
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Thats what we have got already
 
I was talking about the government there rather than remainers/rejoiners

You’re right though, should have been “we have risked”
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Yes. Nobody I work with has said they've been on 'holiday' this year, or last, pre-COVID, except for a couple who pooled their wages and went for a week in Iceland.

I'd love to live in your world, pal, I really would. £359 on furlough. Can you survive on that?
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Genuine question to you and bearing in mind the reason you voted leave were not economic, do you expect to be better or worse off financially due to Brexit, to have more or less job security or no difference. Accepting as well that COVID has thrown a massive curveball into the equation.

For what it’s worth I don’t think it’s correct to call those who can afford a holiday abroad, should they wish to have one, the privileged class. Maybe those with a second home abroad would fall easier into that category but it’s all relative
 
journolud said:
Genuine question to you and bearing in mind the reason you voted leave were not economic, do you expect to be better or worse off financially due to Brexit, to have more or less job security or no difference. Accepting as well that COVID has thrown a massive curveball into the equation.

For what it’s worth I don’t think it’s correct to call those who can afford a holiday abroad, should they wish to have one, the privileged class. Maybe those with a second home abroad would fall easier into that category but it’s all relative
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Had you been more respectful in our previous engagements, i'd have no issues answering you.

You haven't been, so no.
 
Ric said:
This is a great idea. They should do it every New Year’s Eve!
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Now I quite like brexit, but a few things strike me as silly about this. Firstly, the large firework display over the other side of the Thames may slightly over shadow this, secondly wouldn't big ben be sounding at midnight on NYE anyway, and finally is it really necessary to troll the 48% in this way?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Now I quite like brexit, but a few things strike me as silly about this. Firstly, the large firework display over the other side of the Thames may slightly over shadow this, secondly wouldn't big ben be sounding at midnight on NYE anyway, and finally is it really necessary to troll the 48% in this way?
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Presumably the large firework display won’t actually be going ahead this year(?), but yeah it still seems a pretty stupid idea. Probably makes my top three stupid Brexit ideas, behind the “Brexit Festival” and, well, Brexit itself.
 
Ric said:
This is a great idea. They should do it every New Year’s Eve!
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No surprise it’s the Express with this complete nonsense. Do they explain the difference between Big Ben bonging for Brexit and it just bonging anyway. Are they projecting a picture of Farage on two of the faces and Johnson on the other two, with them both being two faced cunts.
 
Will there be a choir who aren't there and an audience who can't attend giving a rousing chorus of Land of Hope and Glory?
 
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