Another new Brexit thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter Ric
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Careful mixing the effects of the virus with the effects of brexit - you are playing the very trick on yourselves that others are planing to play on you to get off the hook.
 
I think a 12 month delay would probably be pragmatic and sensible in the circumstances.

Okay so in 12 months we set a deadline(the never ending kind no doubt) and our national debt is high and loads have lost their jobs because of Covid. 6 months before they start talking again Virus is still around.

This is a good time to do it? If they can't do it now when all common sense says let's wrap this up for the benefit of all why do you think in a years time it would concentrate their minds or help with post virus economic problems.
 
Careful mixing the effects of the virus with the effects of brexit - you are playing the very trick on yourselves that others are planing to play on you to get off the hook.

Yep I agree - head down run into the maelstrom and let Johnson and his cabal own the very shit storm that engulfs us and them. This evenings showed the bravado the sabre rattling got us nowhere - the people who told us it would now have to face up to what they have done to this country. There is no going back not at this late hour - they are running around like a puppy shitting and pissing on newspaper in the kitchen - they are out of control and need to be brought up sharp to understand this won't be pretty - not a grinning matter - and some of the cunts face dire consequences down the line.
 
Okay so in 12 months we set a deadline(the never ending kind no doubt) and our national debt is high and loads have lost their jobs because of Covid. 6 months before they start talking again l. Virus is still around.

This is a good time to do it? If they can't do it now when all common sense says let's wrap this up for the benefit of all why do you think in a years time would concentrate their minds or help with post virus economic problems.
Ideally I want a deal to be struck in the coming days. I’ve been fairly consistent on that. If that doesn’t happen then I think an extension is clearly preferable to the chaos that no deal would bring. Not sure why you’re seemingly affronted by that view tbh?
 
Okay so in 12 months we set a deadline(the never ending kind no doubt) and our national debt is high and loads have lost their jobs because of Covid. 6 months before they start talking again l. Virus is still around.

This is a good time to do it? If they can't do it now when all common sense says let's wrap this up for the benefit of all why do you think in a years time would concentrate their minds or help with post virus economic problems.

Vaccine will have (hopefully) rolled out and eased some of the problems.

To be honest though I’m past giving a shit. In March/April it was obvious to anybody with functioning brain cells that negotiating new trade and border arrangements in the first winter of a pandemic was fucking stupid so my sympathy level is non existent.

Vote for stupid, you get stupid.
 
I'm sitting pretty on a stack of ten, count 'em, ten, tins of Heinz chicken soup.

I tried one today and it turns out that - unfortunately - my tastes must have changed since my teens because it was the worst thing I've ever tasted.

Still, I'll start the bidding at £20 for four, bundled with one free roll of Cushelle. Delivery March/April.

Pays to think ahead, lads.
 
Okay so in 12 months we set a deadline(the never ending kind no doubt) and our national debt is high and loads have lost their jobs because of Covid. 6 months before they start talking again Virus is still around.

This is a good time to do it? If they can't do it now when all common sense says let's wrap this up for the benefit of all why do you think in a years time it would concentrate their minds or help with post virus economic problems.

Common sense doesn’t say that though. Common sense says when you’re going through a period of unprecedented change, like this pandemic, you don’t add additional change into it if you don’t have to.

We don’t have to do this now. We have a withdrawal agreement that could easily be extended and we have a mass rollout of a vaccine in sight with the pandemic. All of this could easily be happening in a state of relative stability. Its absolute madness to implement a change now with such ambiguity to the impact.

It’s a prime example of where people are focussing on the ends rather than the means again. If you want no deal then fair enough. We’ve got this government for the next four years at the very least, why not keep with the withdrawal agreement that they negotiated themselves for a period of time until we have stability with the pandemic? There’s no justifiable motive for it I can think of outside of wanting the chaos to muddle the causes of the inevitable carnage that will follow.
 
Kent Police have put Operation Stack in place...

Operation Stack is now being implemented between Junctions 8 and 11 of the M20 coastbound carriageway following the closures of the Port of Dover and Channel Tunnel. Keep following us and HighwaysSEAST for updates. @
KentPolice
 
Ideally I want a deal to be struck in the coming days. I’ve been fairly consistent on that. If that doesn’t happen then I think an extension is clearly preferable to the chaos that no deal would bring. Not sure why you’re seemingly affronted by that view tbh?

Turn that the other way round if you think brexit is going to be bad why delay it. Why go thru say 20 months of Covid shit then dump brexit on the end to lengthen the misery. If you have 2 bad teeth do you get the dentist to pull them both out or just one and come back and do it again?

Why as a leaver would I be against a 12 month plus delay? Considering that a day after the vote we have had 4 years of remainers trying to delay and hijack the whole thing, forgive me for being a tad cynical.
 
Common sense doesn’t say that though. Common sense says when you’re going through a period of unprecedented change, like this pandemic, you don’t add additional change into it if you don’t have to.

We don’t have to do this now. We have a withdrawal agreement that could easily be extended and we have a mass rollout of a vaccine in sight with the pandemic. All of this could easily be happening in a state of relative stability. Its absolute madness to implement a change now with such ambiguity to the impact.

It’s a prime example of where people are focussing on the ends rather than the means again. If you want no deal then fair enough. We’ve got this government for the next four years at the very least, why not keep with the withdrawal agreement that they negotiated themselves for a period of time until we have stability with the pandemic? There’s no justifiable motive for it I can think of outside of wanting the chaos to muddle the causes of the inevitable carnage that will follow.

Relative stability and then carnage doesn't make much sense. Ask yourself this how long does a vaccine normally take to produce and how long did the Covid one take?
 
Turn that the other way round if you think brexit is going to be bad why delay it. Why go thru say 20 months of Covid shit then dump brexit on the end to lengthen the misery. If you have 2 bad teeth do you get the dentist to pull them both out or just one and come back and do it again?

Why as a leaver would I be against a 12 month plus delay? Considering that a day after the vote we have had 4 years of remainers trying to delay and hijack the whole thing, forgive me for being a tad cynical.

Misery? Why would Brexit be a misery? Surely, we will prosper mightily on Australian terms? Ooh, perhaps we can divert the lorries queuing up at Dover to Australia? Anyone got a map?
 
Turn that the other way round if you think brexit is going to be bad why delay it. Why go thru say 20 months of Covid shit then dump brexit on the end to lengthen the misery. If you have 2 bad teeth do you get the dentist to pull them both out or just one and come back and do it again?

Why as a leaver would I be against a 12 month plus delay? Considering that a day after the vote we have had 4 years of remainers trying to delay and hijack the whole thing, forgive me for being a tad cynical.

It's not 2 bad teeth though. It's asking a patient on life support to survive an op to remove a brain tumour whilst they're also having open heart surgery.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top