Yes.. you have to if you want to trade with the EU. Canada and Japan have also discovered this.
I wouldn't have had the House of Lords as #FBPE bogeymen.
www.parliament.uk
I suppose we need to hope with this deal apparently being so bad that the student protest vote of the lib dems, SNP and labour combined with the ERG and enough tory deserters might be able to stop it.
Who said it’s bad?
But we've demonstrated our sovereignty so (without another referendum) we're back to the normal thing of giving away a bit of sovereignty and autonomy with every treaty agreed under crown prerogative with independent arbitration (i.e. not in the UK courts).
You've not paid attention to a single thing anyone has said for years, i'm not surprised the conclusion you've come to is the one you formed in your own head. Funny as fuck!
Winner winner chicken dinner! A compromise that we can all live with. Brexiteers can claim we've left, and Remainers can congratulate themselves that they have also prevailed. This is the greatest negotiating achievement in terms of solving the unsolvable and bringing a nation together since the GFA. At last we can all celebrate together at midnight on the 31st. :-)
To be fair I didn’t include you when I was generalising about Brexiteers as you’re the only one who has wanted EFTA/EEA from the start so this deal will be quite Brexity for you. But for nearly everyone else it goes against everything they’ve been saying for 4 years.
No it doesn't. You know how I know that they're being genuine about this outcome? Because I've read what they've said and wanted from the deal and understood their position without putting my own toxic remainer spin on them.
We've either done new deals, which they all said we couldn't do, or we've amended currently existing deals with EU partners... which they said we'd 100% lose upon brexit.
Sure.
ukandeu.ac.uk
I'm not laughing in case it's me who looks a twat when there's 7000 lorries stacked on the M20 next week and the supermarkets are bare.
Wait, how can you be accusing them of being hypocritical about liking the deal if you're suggesting they haven't even read the details of the deal?
But we’ve taken back control and the Brexiteers are happy with the compromises.Some interesting analysis floating around, this from UK and EU has a fairly brutal summation.
British sovereignty run by Europe | UK in a changing Europe
British sovereignty run by Europe - UK in a changing Europe
Professor Damian Chalmers argues that the Brexit deal may be one in which the UK might have sovereignty but actually less autonomy.
‘It is one in which the UK might have sovereignty but actually less autonomy (arguably in some circumstances less than member states).
For it is a world in which the UK’s sovereignty will be policed on its own territory by a foreign administration in the form of the Commission with wide-ranging powers and few legal constraints and where its industry will have to accept the rules of the game set by Europe.’
Hey, if that happens and you get desperate and need some Spam, hit me up.
They admitted they hadn’t read the details last Thursday. In their haste to declare victory on this forum (which is clearly what’s important to them) they didn’t realise how ridiculous that sounded. Obviously they’re not going to admit they were wrong now they know what’s in it.
