Bluesiam
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Re: Another winger
It's a bit of a stretch to call all these players wingers.
Proelia said:
It's a bit of a stretch to call all these players wingers.
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Another winger
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greasedupdeafguy
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Re: Another winger
Hes had five good games for Sunderland in the past two years.....Da_Blu_Moona said:That Adam Johnson kid doesn't look bad....
Re: Another winger
Obviously we agree :) . I like your post better. I'd add that we're not only a little predictable against a team that has packed it in, it's also sometimes the only way through to simply beat a man off the dribble to force the defenders to scurry. They'll let you pass it in front of them all day, and in the end all you can do is pump it wide and throw a cross into the box or try to dink a ball over the top, both of which are pretty damn hard to do.
FromPollockToSilva said:teddykgb said:I think Redmond would be useless.
We've got a pace merchant in Navas. I've felt for some time that we need a player who can beat a man off the dribble, take the defense on. Hazard does this so much, it's the ingredient we have been missing for some time. Silva and Nasri are incredible, and Silva can create space with his dribbles, but he isn't putting the same sort of pressure on the defenders that a pacy dribbler causes. Nasri does a little of this, which is why his absence has been felt, but I'd love to see us with Di Maria or Lavezzi, someone with a bit more of the beating of his man.
Nonetheless, we have an incredible squad, and it's hard to figure out how we could go after a player like this and ensure they play enough to keep them happy.
From another thread:
FromPollockToSilva said:If you look at the top dribblers in the Premier League (based on completed dribbles-per-game), City don't have a player in the top 25 in the league, and in fact only have four in the top 50. Our best dribblers are Sergio Aguero and Samir Nasri, with 1.5 dribbles-per-game (DPG) each. In comparison, Luis Suarez completes 2.9 and Eden Hazard 3.7. Hazard has completed 93 dribbles this season to Aguero's 26.
Moreover, the vast majority of our successful dribbles happen in the middle of the pitch, with our third and fourth highest DPG's belonging to Yaya Toure and Fernandinho. We don't have anyone in wide positions who can commit a man, create space or even draw a foul. It won't surprise you to learn that Hazard is also the most fouled player in the league, winning on average 2.8 fouls per game.
As we saw against Norwich yesterday (and on many occasions over the past few seasons), we can struggle to break down well-organised, unambitious defences, and a lot of that is to do with the predictability of our play. I like Jesus Navas, and he's an asset to the team when we're likely to have opportunities to play on the counter, but against a packed defence his play can be very one-dimensional. It's worth mentioning that Navas completes just 0.9 DPG, which is the same as Vincent Kompany. And Scott Parker. Equally, our lack of width on the left due to Silva's free role means that any attacking impetus down that flank is likely to come from our left-back, and against teams that don't leave space in behind for Kolarov/Clichy to exploit, we can appear fairly limited on that side too.
Liverpool, by contrast, have three players in the top ten DPG (Suarez, Coutinho and Sterling). Now I'm not for one minute suggesting that Liverpool are better than City or even a better attacking threat than us, because clearly they're not. They have however only scored 5 fewer goals than us in the league this season, and a lot of that is to do with their attacking players' willingness to take people on, create chances and force mistakes (or corners, which they actually score from with some regularity).
Obviously we agree :) . I like your post better. I'd add that we're not only a little predictable against a team that has packed it in, it's also sometimes the only way through to simply beat a man off the dribble to force the defenders to scurry. They'll let you pass it in front of them all day, and in the end all you can do is pump it wide and throw a cross into the box or try to dink a ball over the top, both of which are pretty damn hard to do.
FantasyIreland
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Re: Another winger
Clichy would disagree.
mansour's tow ropes said:birchwoodgingerste said:Redmond looks a good prospect ..and he is english we were linked to him before he went to birmingham..
not good enough
Clichy would disagree.
Re: Another winger
Not really, wingers just evolved to cut in and not just go down the byline they still play either wide on the left or rightBlueSiam said:Proelia said:Nope im saying what we need, all the best teams play with wingers , bayern have ribery and robben , madrid have ronaldo and bale/jese , chelsea willian and hazard and barcelona have pedro/alexis/tello/neymarDamocles said:We should buy more players.
Everytime we lose or draw, we should spend another £50m.
It's a bit of a stretch to call all these players wingers.
bluemooninho
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Re: Another winger
and the prize for longest sentence of the year goes to........
salfordbluetrue said:its the old story if you dont have a winger you cannot play one if you have one you can chose whether to play one at the moment we have one winger navas and three others who can play on the wing but wont lopez is years away from cementing a regular first team spot is a young kinki someone with electric pace too much to ask for citys failure to add balance to the team led to a slow leftback playing winger against norwich
and the prize for longest sentence of the year goes to........