Antidepresents

[Bigga]

Let's just get one thing correct; exercise for depression is not a fix. It is like putting a band aid over axe wound in your chest!

I have always thought this for years( I have had the condition for 30 years and started with Citalopram, now on Venlafaxine).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18335173

At least now, my thoughts have been agreed with.

What have you found on the tollerence thing by the way? Have you found you have needed more and more till you cant take any more?

You know what BN, my experiences on the Citalopram were as said above; my current dosage kept wearing off and kept being upped. Changing to Venlaf was like a miracle! However, just recently I've felt a return to the state I was in, but it took a couple of years to get there (in my mind!).

I have avoided asking for an uppage as I want to try and manage on what I have.

And dream on, 'Walter' Jonathan 'Mitty'.

 

[daveduke67]

Before you make the pull yourself together or similar comments please read this.

When you are told that someone close to you has died you are likely to cry and get upset. Probably lose your appetite and neglect your daily routine - washing, housework etc. Your body reacts to the news by producing certain chemicals that depress you and make you feel like you do. There is nothing you can do about it. Hopefully the feelings will go away soon and you can get on.

People who are suffering from depression ( genuinely not scroungers) are being subjected to this chemical imbalance on a regular basis and can do nothing about it. Just as some people suffer from excess acid or high blood pressure it's something you can't just stop by being positive and getting your act together.

So telling them to pull themselves together is like telling the mother who's just lost her son, the husband who's lost his wife of the child that has lost their Mother to do the same after hearing the news.

Please consider this before posting any stupid uninformed comments. I doubt anyone who hadn't a clue about quantum physics would chip in with a comment about that topic, yet they're quite happy to post crap about this one soley based on what they think they know or what they think should be.

 

[blue wang]

Glaxo-smith-klein has been fined 1.3 billion dollars for bribing doctors to prescribe it's anti-depressant drugs to inappropriate patients, mainly seroxat, to young people, resulting, in the worst cases, suicide.
It is a national disgrace that once again it was America and not GB that prosecuted them, our record of bringing big business to court is almost non-existent, from asbestos to blacklung, thalidomide and DDT, we never take the lead.
The op has my deepest sympathy, having watched a family member going through the nightmare of manic depression, lithium dosage being the only help offered by her life-long doctor. When he retired she had to see a new doctor, much against her will but it was the best thing that could have happened, he tried several options and she made a return to normal life. Doctors are targeted by drug companies to prescribe their products, keeping up with the latest developments in medicine can be time consuming, sorting the truth from the hype more so, older doctors might not even bother, sticking with what they know. Good luck hope it turns out for the best

this ,,,watched a documentary , the mental health phernacutacul industry is corrupt from top to bottom

i will stick to smoking pot and the occasional devils dandruff, emphatamine and binge drinking

i find lsd and mushroom can be enlightening and good for deprression if you are mentally strong enough to come out the other side of a hellishly introspective ordeal

they way these big companiees pay off official and remarket one drug and perscribe it for another purpose is crazy, sick and twisted

 

[tueartsboots]

This is where we need 100%Manc, he has suffered bi-polar for years.

 

[oakiecokie]

Before you make the pull yourself together or similar comments please read this.

When you are told that someone close to you has died you are likely to cry and get upset. Probably lose your appetite and neglect your daily routine - washing, housework etc. Your body reacts to the news by producing certain chemicals that depress you and make you feel like you do. There is nothing you can do about it. Hopefully the feelings will go away soon and you can get on.

People who are suffering from depression ( genuinely not scroungers) are being subjected to this chemical imbalance on a regular basis and can do nothing about it. Just as some people suffer from excess acid or high blood pressure it's something you can't just stop by being positive and getting your act together.

So telling them to pull themselves together is like telling the mother who's just lost her son, the husband who's lost his wife of the child that has lost their Mother to do the same after hearing the news.

Please consider this before posting any stupid uninformed comments. I doubt anyone who hadn't a clue about quantum physics would chip in with a comment about that topic, yet they're quite happy to post crap about this one soley based on what they think they know or what they think should be.

Spot on DD.Its the last thing a sufferer needs to hear.Does anyone actually think that by saying those words its actually going to help them in any way,shape or form.
Just the opposite !
And before anyone asks,yes unfortunately I have and still suffer from this horrible illness.However one of the things I have actually turned around is my willingness to help other poor unfortunate people.
You would be very suprised as to how many Blue Mooners PM me and I have helped or am currently helping with both depresion and panic attacks.
For the OP,please just see how things work with different tablets,as I know from experience and what others have said before me,sometimes it just finding that right balance of medication and the varying strengths,which should hopefully work.
If you or anyone else needs to discuss,then please feel free to PM.Ask other Blue Mooners who I`ve helped,discretion on your personal problems stay with us and no-one else.
oakie.

 

[The Flash]

Glaxo-smith-klein has been fined 1.3 billion dollars for bribing doctors to prescribe it's anti-depressant drugs to inappropriate patients, mainly seroxat, to young people, resulting, in the worst cases, suicide.
It is a national disgrace that once again it was America and not GB that prosecuted them, our record of bringing big business to court is almost non-existent, from asbestos to blacklung, thalidomide and DDT, we never take the lead.
The op has my deepest sympathy, having watched a family member going through the nightmare of manic depression, lithium dosage being the only help offered by her life-long doctor. When he retired she had to see a new doctor, much against her will but it was the best thing that could have happened, he tried several options and she made a return to normal life. Doctors are targeted by drug companies to prescribe their products, keeping up with the latest developments in medicine can be time consuming, sorting the truth from the hype more so, older doctors might not even bother, sticking with what they know. Good luck hope it turns out for the best

Seroxat worked for me, but the bullshit peddled about them not being addictive is scandalous. It was horrible coming off the bastards. Real withdrawal symptoms, cold sweats, the shakes, everything.

I decided to stop as I had taken stock of my life and situation. I was in a better place than the point where I'd decided to seek help, had turned myself around and as such, I felt there was no further need for me to be taking the meds, as I had addressed my issues.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Well all the best BN, always difficult mate but as the Flash says it can take time to get the medication and level of dose correct, whilst it's good to get opinions always be guided by your (her) Doc (not suggesting you would mate, just a mention though), took me years of various meds and doses, eventually settling on the top whack of Venlafaxine, it's not perfect by any means but does help quite a bit all things considered.

 

[brass neck]

Thanks everyone. The ones who haved lived it will kmow the exact stuff thats been happening for 4 or 5 years in our house. The isolation of the suffererer is well documented, but the pressure on the carers maybe isnt that spoken about. Its a nightmare, standing on egg shells, praying for it to go away. Fingers crossed eh, you never know, one day we may just stop fighting very expensive wars and actually try and find a proper cure for more mental illnesses and while we're at it we could try, Autism, M.S. Cystic Fibrosis, Demetia and various other un popular illnesses. Maybe once a cure for AIDS has been found (and I belive it isnt far off), then Elton John and co can start having benifits for illnesses that get shoved to the back of the cue!!!

 

[BrianW]

I had this problem for years, different drugs, counselling, talks with psyciatrists, you name it. I ended up on a big dose of Mirtazapine, which seems to have done the trick. The only thing is, it's a woman to come off, I have had to wean myself off very gradually. But I am almost there, just taking a tiny dose now, almost out of habit. I think you have to be really patient with ADs.

But a drug that works for one person won't necessarily work for another. And when you've had this depression shit, you know in the back of your mind it can always come back. I'm, semi-OK now, in that I don't feel dreadful on an almost daily basis, and don't want to kill myself, but having said all that I'm not the bloke I used to be. In some ways I'm a better sort of person, but I don't have anything like the mental capability or self-assurance that I once had.

 

[marcoboogers]

My mate recommended to me that i try CBT (cognative behaviour threapy), i looked this up and did a course of this in my local library. It helped a lot & its worth a try