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why spunk 60m+ on defenders fer em to get splinters on their arse!.....play the fuckers they couldn't have done much worse than what played today!.....binned off the best right back ive ever seen in a city shirt & playing a midfielder in place of him who hasn't been deemed good enough to play in the position he was bought for!.....glaring hole in midfield still not sorted....fucks going on? We'll get top 5 & scrape into champs league spot but getting battered 5-1 by the worst arsenal side i've seen fer a long time is nothing short of embarrassing! Every player on that pitch should hang their head in shame. Pep's lost em, dressing room gone, he looks lost doesnt know what to do.... thats a big worry fer me. Love the man to bits but his heart isnt' in it anymore he doesn't have the answers anymore.
 
colin's bell helmet said:
why spunk 60m+ on defenders fer em to get splinters on their arse!.....play the fuckers they couldn't have done much worse than what played today!.....binned off the best right back ive ever seen in a city shirt & playing a midfielder in place of him who hasn't been deemed good enough to play in the position he was bought for!.....glaring hole in midfield still not sorted....fucks going on? We'll get top 5 & scrape into champs league spot but getting battered 5-1 by the worst arsenal side i've seen fer a long time is nothing short of embarrassing! Every player on that pitch should hang their head in shame. Pep's lost em, dressing room gone, he looks lost doesnt know what to do.... thats a big worry fer me. Love the man to bits but his heart isnt' in it anymore he doesn't have the answers anymore.
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Exactly this

Except top 5 your having a laugh
 
Blue2202 said:
Yet again like watching the lambs been sent to slaughter. Set up all wrong and a non existent midfield leaving the back 4 exposed. This type of result and performance is not an anomaly now though is it?

Make no mistake, pep is responsible for a large portion of this mess. Plenty here love to credit him for all the success and refuse to accept he’s responsible for when things go wrong.

Something has set in to these players which is up to him to sort. We are absolutely piss weak mentally given how much success we’ve had and I genuinely don’t think there’s another midfield in the league that’s easier to play through than ours.

Why hasn’t this clear issue been addressed tactically or by new personnel?
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Beggars belief we are just as fragile at the end of the window as we were at the start. Pep usually sorts our issues out and we get back in our groove. Not this time it looks terminal. Any top half team pumps us bar Chelsea. With our Kryptonite of Spurs, Dippers and Madrid on the horizon, we need to buckle up
 
Dave El Magico said:
After a terrible start, thanks to shabolic errors from our defenders and keeper, I felt that we got back into the game and by half time we were on top. When Haaland equalised, I thought that we might go on to win. Sadly, those thoughts lasted for less than a minute.
Sixty minutes in and we totally capitulated. It seems to be something that our opponents have picked up on (Brentford/PSG). Is it lack of fitness, loss of concentration, old legs, I don’t know, but it needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. Sadly we ended up with a seriously embarrassing result. Just glad that I don’t take any notice of media reporting.
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And typical they get goals from one player who should have been serving a three game ban and another who should be doing a ten stretch in Prison
 
i can’t understand why pep is not seeing that everyone else does that high line of defense is killing us. Wtf in games me meat good teams play low defensive line and play the ball in space and let Halland and Marmoush run on it, we have players that can hit that ball and players that can run on it.
Marmoush had found good space to run trough there defense but the ball never came, can’t understand why we don’t dare to make that play when we are on the offensive half, Foden had no problems hitting it when we where on the wrong half.

If we play Real Madrid like this wow imagen Vinicius and Mpabbes space they get to run on and now we don’t have Walkers speed anymore
 
goalmole said:
I don't understand this wailing and gnashing of teeth, not to mention the anger and abuse directed at the players, Pep and the management.

It's not even a surprise this downturn is happening.

The only surprise is that this group of players have managed to achieve sustained success at this level for so long.
They have won 6 out of the last 7 Premiership titles, reached 2 Champions League finals, won 1 Champions League, 2 FA Cups, 4 League Cups, 3 Community Shields since 2016 with many records broken along the way, not to mention the doubles, treble and winning 4 League titles on the bounce.

Rags, Dippers, Tarquins, Yids, Chavs and fans of every club in the football pyramid would give their left bollock to see their teams achieve so much success.
Yet here are we, a bunch of entitled ingrates who couldn't have dreamt of so much success barely a decade and a half ago, calling out world class players, one of the best managers the world has ever seen and a fantastic management team who have given us so much success.


It's not rocket science, this player group has come to the end of it's natural life cycle, players have aged, they are exhausted physically and mentally and the team needs a rebuild which is well underway.
It was always bound to happen sooner or later.

The good times will return with the rebuild of the squad, our owners will insist on it and back it with the funds to make it happen as they so generously have in the past.
Untill that happens let's stay humble and grateful and back our manager and players who have given us so much success to celebrate over the years.
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I could not of said it better . We have best manager and some of the best players to ever play for us . So i think some fans need to wobble there heads
 
eyalluvitt said:
And typical they get goals from one player who should have been serving a three game ban and another who should be doing a ten stretch in Prison
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What/who is that about??

Can we have a clue obviously without saying anything libellous.
 
At 1-1 we looked like we were doing ok, this season I'm never confident in the last 25 minutes we seem to run out of steam, some of the goals we conceded were shocking, luckily my Indian takeaway arrived before the 5th goal, we need a couple of midfielders Bernardo can't do it on his own
 
MMA said:
There was a time in MMA that strikers with great ( just defense) against grapplers was the way..

Chuck liddell was the master of this.
Master striker but had a great defence to get back up if he got taken down.
He never had any intention to grapple. Just get back up.

Then the wrestlers took over the strikers.. they evolved.

Smashing everybody.

Then we had a mix of fighters great at both ( St Pierre ect .)..

Then it evolved again to wrestlers dominating.. kabib ect ..

Now it's changed again to fucking amazing wrestlers who've learnt how to strike on the feet..

It moves on.

Peps philosophy has been left behind..

Can he evolve, I don't think he can , and it's nothing to do with not having the players.

Teams much lower down have done us over and done us over purely down to tactics and how they are being trained....
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Jesus Christ, Pep's philosophy has been left behind in just 6 months since he won the league with it. That was quick. I was under the impression that evolution is something that happens over millennia.

Or maybe, just maybe, he's asked for one too many seasons from a group of players that are too old, too injured, and too knackered to manage it, and needs a rebuild like literally every manager of all time. Four in a row. There's a reason it'd never been done before.
 
Sir peace frog said:
At 1-1 we looked like we were doing ok, this season I'm never confident in the last 25 minutes we seem to run out of steam, some of the goals we conceded were shocking, luckily my Indian takeaway arrived before the 5th goal, we need a couple of midfielders Bernardo can't do it on his own
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I agree. In most seasons, I've always been confident that we'll finish strongly. This season, the longer the game goes on, often the worse we look, particularly if we're not against a team we can just dominate possession against. Having said that, the main issue in this game was individual errors......again. Utterly shite passing at the back, which is very similar to what's always the problem when City have a shit spell under Pep (which isn't often).
 
MCFC1993 said:
Well beaten, won't come as a surprise to many, that's about where we're at this season.

We've no midfield and it shows in every big game we play.

We're also never winning games when you gift them the first 2 goals.

Pretty much confirms Arsenal runners up (again) with Liverpool champions.
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We have no midfield but fuck me our 2 CB's today were shockingly poor and don't get me started on Ortega!
 
goalmole said:
I don't understand this wailing and gnashing of teeth, not to mention the anger and abuse directed at the players, Pep and the management.

It's not even a surprise this downturn is happening.

The only surprise is that this group of players have managed to achieve sustained success at this level for so long.
They have won 6 out of the last 7 Premiership titles, reached 2 Champions League finals, won 1 Champions League, 2 FA Cups, 4 League Cups, 3 Community Shields since 2016 with many records broken along the way, not to mention the doubles, treble and winning 4 League titles on the bounce.

Rags, Dippers, Tarquins, Yids, Chavs and fans of every club in the football pyramid would give their left bollock to see their teams achieve so much success.
Yet here are we, a bunch of entitled ingrates who couldn't have dreamt of so much success barely a decade and a half ago, calling out world class players, one of the best managers the world has ever seen and a fantastic management team who have given us so much success.


It's not rocket science, this player group has come to the end of it's natural life cycle, players have aged, they are exhausted physically and mentally and the team needs a rebuild which is well underway.
It was always bound to happen sooner or later.

The good times will return with the rebuild of the squad, our owners will insist on it and back it with the funds to make it happen as they so generously have in the past.
Untill that happens let's stay humble and grateful and back our manager and players who have given us so much success to celebrate over the years.
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It's true the end of a cycle, and players aging, was inevitable. That's all the more reason why the consistent failure to strengthen the squad in key positions over a few years should be criticised.
 
Arse's love in with Haaland was so stupid. I could imagine Gabriel wanting to take revenge but for them to more or less have every big moment based around Haaland was ridiculous, Dippers don't have that mentality and that will see them through.
Our defense keeps getting exposed since Kovacic/Bernardo cant really track back to defend at the same pace as the opposition and that puts us a couple of players down in defence. Our defence reminds me of Pellegrini times right now. Get a RB and DM in today.
We need to desperately keep Dias and Ake fit.
 
Awful day. Fell apart. But you know what, it wasn't an all round crap performance.

After a dodgy first ten mins, by the time we equalised we were the better side and fully deserved the equaliser. In fact, from that moment playing the way we were, we may well have gone on to win the match.

Then Phil played that ridiculously chosen pass and also played it poorly. All that hard work to get level and we were back where we were.

And that's when the problems kick in. Some of them lost their heads, some of them stopped playing, even if only for a few minutes and then it was 3-1. Players stopped showing for the ball, stopped making the right decisions, stopped tracking runners. And it became easy for Arsenal to sit in and pick us off.

Stones obviously didn't have one of his best games, but in the last 20 minutes it felt like he was the only defender we had and he was being pulled everywhere and getting there too late.

Obviously changes need to come in the summer, but it's easy to forget this wasn't a bad performance throughout. 1-1 at around 55 minutes was a decent position to be in, we just f#cked up badly from that position.
 
KPXBLN said:
It's true the end of a cycle, and players aging, was inevitable. That's all the more reason why the consistent failure to strengthen the squad in key positions over a few years should be criticised.
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It's not as easy as that.

It was a trade off between bringing in new players that may or may not fit into the ultra successful system and group of players we had in place or maintaining a successful group of players that were familiar and drilled in that system and were winning everything.
The fact that we won 6 out of the last 7 titles says that the decision to maintain the successful player group for as long as possible was the correct one.
 
mattcity5 said:
Awful day. Fell apart. But you know what, it wasn't an all round crap performance.

After a dodgy first ten mins, by the time we equalised we were the better side and fully deserved the equaliser. In fact, from that moment playing the way we were, we may well have gone on to win the match.

Then Phil played that ridiculously chosen pass and also played it poorly. All that hard work to get level and we were back where we were.

And that's when the problems kick in. Some of them lost their heads, some of them stopped playing, even if only for a few minutes and then it was 3-1. Players stopped showing for the ball, stopped making the right decisions, stopped tracking runners. And it became easy for Arsenal to sit in and pick us off.

Stones obviously didn't have one of his best games, but in the last 20 minutes it felt like he was the only defender we had and he was being pulled everywhere and getting there too late.

Obviously changes need to come in the summer, but it's easy to forget this wasn't a bad performance throughout. 1-1 at around 55 minutes was a decent position to be in, we just f#cked up badly from that position.
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I agree whole heatedly with this.

The result suggests a battering (some degree it was).....but it's easy to forget that we looked the better team for long period.

At the moment, we make too many mistakes and the heads go, leading to a collapse.

Even my Dad (red) said the scoreline wasn't a fair reflection and we were on top. Until the inevitable.
 
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