Arsenal - Post match thread

Good for you. You agree that Pellegrini is some sort of evil mastermind?

He must be some manager. How he's managed to get the players to buy into his destructive plan is brilliant.

Who'd have thought the old useless corpse could get the players dancing like puppets on a string no matter the tune...
 
so I will ask you as I have asked others. (good reply btw)

do you agree that the manager was picking the best 11 he could whilst choosing bony over nacho ?

do you think he was right to consistently play delph outside left when it clearly didn't work?

do you think playing kdb on the wing was worth persisting with although that too was clearly the wrong position for our 57m player?

do you think he was right to rotate at the "smaller" clubs even though we'd got no wins when trying this earlier in the season.

why persist with tactic and decisions clearly not working. why do it?

better still name me a manager that would have done. I can't. can only be at it.

he should have gone the day pep was announced and replaced by a caretaker, Rafa would have been my choice. we'd be champions now. fuck the CL.


How many times did he select Bony over Iheanacho since the Pep announcement? Not many. Last last month he's constantly favoured Iheanacho.

Delph has rarely played left wing, maybe three times and when he was it was purely to accommodate Silva or De Bruyne in their favoured role. Contradicting yourself there bud.

When De Bruyne was asked to play left of a 433 he should be expected to do a job. Sterling Injured, Silva injured, Nasri injured, you don't want Delph on the left, who's left?

He doesn't persist with anything. That's why we are so inconsistent.

Yes, with an injury ravaged squad he should rotate.

Rafa's work miracles with Newcastle.

If he has indeed done this as part of some sort of revenge, why have the players bought into it? Is he asking Zabaleta to be utter shit? Otamendi to constantly dive in, follow the ball? Is he asking Kolarov to not bother tracking his man?

If these pnayers have bought into this dastardly plan, I think we've greatly underestimated him as a manager.
 
I feel even better now having left at the end knowing sanctimonious pricks like you were offended.

Typical numpty bluemoon retort.

Did the under 18's deserve to stand in an empty stadium too?

The hypocrisy of our fans is laughable, 100's of pages slagging United, Liverpool Arsenal, yet non of their fans would act like we saw Sunday. 1000's pages criticising the media, yet our own fans fuel the first.

As I said, fans can claim it was for some type of moral stance or show of defiance, for some it possibly was. For me it was spoilt brat syndrome for many.

The three idiots that sit behind me slagging every play and manager all game didn't leave with 5 minutes to go because of some feelings disassociation between fans and club but because they're slapped arses worried their ragga mates might send them a text.
 
Typical numpty bluemoon retort.

Did the under 18's deserve to stand in an empty stadium too?

The hypocrisy of our fans is laughable, 100's of pages slagging United, Liverpool Arsenal, yet non of their fans would act like we saw Sunday. 1000's pages criticising the media, yet our own fans fuel the first.

As I said, fans can claim it was for some type of moral stance or show of defiance, for some it possibly was. For me it was spoilt brat syndrome for many.

The three idiots that sit behind me slagging every play and manager all game didn't leave with 5 minutes to go because of some feelings disassociation between fans and club but because they're slapped arses worried their ragga mates might send them a text.
The U18's should have been paraded at HT. The club should have realised that the mood wasn't great and got the team out asap without any nonsense.
I clapped the team off, waited a couple of minutes then hit the road. I don't feel bad about it and I'll be back again next season to do it all again.
 
If I was still able to attend games I probably would have left. I feel more of the anger is a lack of fight. You say the dummy was spat because we didn't win everything but i disagree. City fans know their football and they would be more than happy to support and clap off a team that had given everything, but as you well know, they have been on cruise control all season and sometimes even in reverse.

That's fair comment, for me though, Sunday was full of fight, hunger and desire. The manager deserves our respect for the way he's conducted himself and certain players who may never set foot in the Etihad again and the u18's deserved a little more.

For me it seems many fans long for the good(bad) old days yet want all the trapping of success.
 
Sad act

Bill's right it was absolutely ridiculous of pellegrini not to make a sub at 60 mins, at the latest. Even before the game it was pretty obvious we'd need changes what with us playing madrid midweek and a fresh arsenal having a clear run at the game, but with the formation and high intensity we were playing with Fern and Fernandinho running their bollocks off in the middle it was obvious we were going to tire. Come 60 mins in we do exactly that and look dead on our feet, everyone's sat there begging for a sub and what does he do? Fuck all. Stand and watched them equalise. It was all there the crowd were up for it and we were winning the team just needed a lift it was obvious, but the old fool let us all down and hung the players out to dry yet again. Yet another pivotal thing where it is impossible to understand what the old idiot is thinking, genuinely the most reasonable line of thinking must be that he's dead and whoever does moonchester is walking about in his skin instead, but that theory is undermined by the fact that moonchester would have made a sub earlier

Let's not forget we wouldn't be in that mess we were in if pellegrini hadn't made the ridiculous decision of giving Mangala and MDM no protection in the derby, leaving fernando on the bench and going gung-ho with Yaya in a 2 man midfield against a united team with pace up front, when there was absolutely no need to do it. That was just another of his incredible decisions that you could almost put down to sabotage, so after the idiot blew what we thought was his last golden chance with us 2-1 up against arsenal and just desperately needing a sub at that point, there was no fucking way I was staying behind to clap the ****. You don't thank people who've spent the last 8 months fucking you over and humiliating you. Staying behind to applaud Pellegrini would have been like going to an identity parade to pick out a paedophile and instead of banging the fucker up taking him out for a few beers, then giving him a lowry painting, for fucks sake!

Anyway that's all done with and it boils down to this one last game now. His last golden chance when there shouldn't be one. He can't possibly blow this one after everything else, can he?

You fucking bet he can. Hope and pray boys, hope and pray

The last 9 months? Would that be the cup final we won?
The CL semi final we made?

As for the rest of your post, I addressed that originally he'd called Sterling back before they scored. It took him fucking ages to get ready.

Is Iheanacho not equally to blame for their draw, their goal? 3 on 1, opportunity to kill the game. Slide it wide to either player, game over.

As for the Derby, is a manager not well within his rights to believe two highly experienced thirty somethings will do their job?
I don't blame the managef for highly paid highly experienced stars not doing their job.
 
The U18's should have been paraded at HT. The club should have realised that the mood wasn't great and got the team out asap without any nonsense.
I clapped the team off, waited a couple of minutes then hit the road. I don't feel bad about it and I'll be back again next season to do it all again.


I actually thought the mood in the stadium was pretty good. Good game, we tried for a change and the fans were up for it.

Fans can do what they like, suggesting our manager ruined our season out of spite is laughable. That's post I took acception to.

But I maintain the numpties near me, the ones throughout the ground booing our own players and behaving like spoilt children were leaving for no other reason than ridiculous levels of entitlement. Something there's 100's of pages slagging other fans.

This has been a weird season. Fans are entitled and for me right to want Pellegrini gone. The problem, the fans can't really vent this as he is gone.

There's been a feeling of can't wait for next season way before this season ended. When Pep was confirmed, we were still in everything. Fans have rightly been excited about Pep, but how has it affected our season? Fans perspective? I've read on here fans saying they can't wait for next season, days before a CL semi final. Many of our fans had written this season off way before it was over. This can't be a good thing.
Sadly it looks like some players have too.
 
I actually thought the mood in the stadium was pretty good. Good game, we tried for a change and the fans were up for it.

Fans can do what they like, suggesting our manager ruined our season out of spite is laughable. That's post I took acception to.

But I maintain the numpties near me, the ones throughout the ground booing our own players and behaving like spoilt children were leaving for no other reason than ridiculous levels of entitlement. Something there's 100's of pages slagging other fans.

This has been a weird season. Fans are entitled and for me right to want Pellegrini gone. The problem, the fans can't really vent this as he is gone.

There's been a feeling of can't wait for next season way before this season ended. When Pep was confirmed, we were still in everything. Fans have rightly been excited about Pep, but how has it affected our season? Fans perspective? I've read on here fans saying they can't wait for next season, days before a CL semi final. Many of our fans had written this season off way before it was over. This can't be a good thing.
Sadly it looks like some players have too.
The mood beforehand and throughout the 90 minutes was very good. Once the final whistle went there was an air of deflation around my area that we'd allowed ourselves to be in a position where finishing in the top 4 was out of our hands.
Luckily we don't have many fans in and around where I sit who slag off the players and go on and on so fortunately I don't have to put up with that because I'm sure it would soon grate.
Obviously I wouldn't go down the same route as Bill and say he's purposely put us in the shit but I do agree he's not been good enough the last 18 months. I'm happy to factor in all the things that have left him hamstrung for one reason or another but I still feel he's as much to blame for where we are in the league as the players.
I think it's good for everyone that it's finally coming to its conclusion and we can start to think about the future. He just needs to sign off with a win or draw and his reputation will survive. Drop into 5th and I don't think it'll be pretty.
 

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