Scholes is only ever talked about as elite because of the team he played for and the number of trophies he won, but imagine he didn't have the protections afforded by the GPC's special relationship with the PL and it's merry band ofLet’s end this debate over Declan Rice for good. Ranking of Premier League CDM’s …
God tier: basically just Rodri
Elite tier: Kante, Fernandinho, Makelele, Vieira and others
Premium tier: Essien, Barry, Petit, Rice etc
Bang average tier: Scholes ;-)
Debate over
Almost all of his lung busting runs are into dead ends. Ends up running back towards where he started.
He's absolutely miserable twat on that YouTube thing he does with Nicky Butt and that annoying guy from Bolton. Doesn't ever seem to have a nice thing to say.Scholes is only ever talked about as elite because of the team he played for and the number of trophies he won, but imagine he didn't have the protections afforded by the GPC's special relationship with the PL and it's merry band ofcheatsreferee's?
He'd be Lee Bowyer lite.
I’m guessing Mark Noble had a few in his time.Yeh, that’s exactly why he keeps getting voted player of the year for his club.
I never even knew he did a YouTube thing, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be watching it. ;-)He's absolutely miserable twat on that YouTube thing he does with Nicky Butt and that annoying guy from Bolton. Doesn't ever seem to have a nice thing to say.
'Good win for Arsenal at the weekend Paul?'.
'I'm not convinced, in my day we'd be putting 5 or 6 past these low table sides'.
'Paul, thoughts on Haaland being the fastest to 100 goals?'
'He knows where the goal is but in my day we expected more from our strikers - I don't think he's a United-type striker'.
Fuck off you twat - in your day there was 1, max 2 competitors at any time and the refs let you play until you scored and went blind when you fouled anyone.
Really?And I know this is a City forum but LOL at having Fernandinho above Rice, Petit and Essien!
Imagine thinking Petit is in the same league as Fernandinho. Just imagineReally?
As I wrote recently, Dinho was a one-man midfield for us in the early years of Pep’s time at City. He didn’t have Vieira, as Petit did, or Makélélé, as Essen did, nor Zubimendi, as Rice does, alongside him to help him stem opposition attacks.
Fernandinho was an absolute beast in the pivot rôle, and his contribution to our success should never be underestimated.
Just a little bit of Arsenal bias there - Fernandinho was a better player than Rice and Petit and I’ll happily die on that hill. As for Essien - just looked it up, he played 168 games for Chelsea in 9/10 seasons. Make of that what you will.Vieira and Keane above Rodri IMHO. Or at least level. And above anyone, untouchable on his own is Ngolo Kante who was a cheat code for having the equivalent of 12 players on the pitch.
And I know this is a City forum but LOL at having Fernandinho above Rice, Petit and Essien!
Lol Fern is well clear of Petit, Essien was very good but also very injury prone, and you can compare Rice to Fern when he actually wins something.Vieira and Keane above Rodri IMHO. Or at least level. And above anyone, untouchable on his own is Ngolo Kante who was a cheat code for having the equivalent of 12 players on the pitch.
And I know this is a City forum but LOL at having Fernandinho above Rice, Petit and Essien!
When do the players actually behind to lose faith and question this clowns coaching methods? 5 years with no trophies and they play an effective but very uninspiring style of football. If you’re a serious footballer don’t you get to a stage where you begin to get fed up?
Imagine the likes of Haaland or De Bruyne prior to him being at City and not having won anything in 5 years. Wouldn’t you be starting to wonder what you are doing there?
You can talk about loyalty or being part of a project but top players want to be winning the top trophies.
Arteta as well hardly seems like the inspiring type. From what I can see he has very little charisma and personality.
Pretty sure Arsenal will win trophies. They'll probably get one of the PL or Champions League this season. Despite a horrendous injury list they are still 2 clear in the PL and 6 from 6 in the CL - once those players come back (and all are due back by end Dec) the team will motor. Arsenal's squad depth has gotten them this far - imagine what would happen if City lost Haaland or Foden etc for any length of time.When do the players actually behind to lose faith and question this clowns coaching methods? 5 years with no trophies and they play an effective but very uninspiring style of football. If you’re a serious footballer don’t you get to a stage where you begin to get fed up?
Imagine the likes of Haaland or De Bruyne prior to him being at City and not having won anything in 5 years. Wouldn’t you be starting to wonder what you are doing there?
You can talk about loyalty or being part of a project but top players want to be winning the top trophies.
Arteta as well hardly seems like the inspiring type. From what I can see he has very little charisma and personality.
Fuck off .. Vieira and Dog wanker nowhere near as good as Rod...Vieira and Keane above Rodri IMHO. Or at least level. And above anyone, untouchable on his own is Ngolo Kante who was a cheat code for having the equivalent of 12 players on the pitch.
And I know this is a City forum but LOL at having Fernandinho above Rice, Petit and Essien!
You can't be serious..He walks into any City side. If you had Rodri back on top form you'd have Rodri at 6 and Rice at 8.
Okay we are on a City forum so let's agree to disagree on Fernandinho.Fuck off .. Vieira and Dog wanker nowhere near as good as Rod...
Fernandinho shits all over them pricks you named.
I don't care what forum I'm on ..I'm still sticking with Fern..the guy was mustardOkay we are on a City forum so let's agree to disagree on Fernandinho.
Wonder what would happen if we lost, say, Rodri and Stones.Pretty sure Arsenal will win trophies. They'll probably get one of the PL or Champions League this season. Despite a horrendous injury list they are still 2 clear in the PL and 6 from 6 in the CL - once those players come back (and all are due back by end Dec) the team will motor. Arsenal's squad depth has gotten them this far - imagine what would happen if City lost Haaland or Foden etc for any length of time.
I hope it's the PL with the caveat that we win it on the pitch, not in a courtroom as else it won't count in my book.
What if you lost Stones, Dias, Gvardiol and O'Reilly at the same time? Then as they come back you lost Haaland, Foden, Cherki and Marmoush at the same time.Wonder what would happen if we lost, say, Rodri and Stones.