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[hilts]

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Ridiculous that, the kids not running sideways :-)

 

[mancity111]

We have zero style anymore, I really don't know what has happened

Too many have aged , injured too often and too easily at that and play injured due to aging in part and the whole approach to the game in one of panic and a complete lack of composure as a consequence.

We cannot keep possession and get possession back quickly enough when we lose it.

We are far too easy to set up against and have no run and physical presence due to the make up of the squad we now have.

The squad is too small to keep ticking over to cover injuries and the quick drop off while disappointing to say the least and unexpected to the degree it has demonstrates what can and does occur when you don't bring in quality to rejuvenate the squad often enough in the right numbers and positions.

Our midfield is slow and disjointed and our back four changes from game to game and isn't fit for purpose anymore and we have one up front who needs the service in and around the box with speed and fluidity otherwise he offers little.

I expect us to finish in the bottom half this season , just how low remains to be seen but those still clinging onto a top four finish I suspect it won't be too long before they realize that in a league that I don't think is as good as it has been in previous years our squad on many levels just cannot compete anywhere near the level of the past.

 

[M Gaudino]

Four points in eight games. That's excruciating.

the benefit of hindsight but if Pep had actually taken some medicine, played some kids at the back in those games against spurs and liverpool we might have had a fully fit backline by a month ago, be able to rotate properly and we’d be miles up the table.

 

[I'm Blue]

Well if we're getting to the nitty gritty of things we need to ask why they aren't. I'm seeing things on the pitch now that aren't due to injuries or previous season feats.

I agree.
I’ve said Khaldoon needs to get the players in a room (without Pep) and ask them do they still want Pep as their manager.
If they do then they need to be told to start fucking showing it with fight, heart and desire.
If they don’t then those players can leave as far as I’m concerned, regardless of what they won.
I did wonder if it was 115 related but I doubt Pep would be clawing his own face off and looking ill with it all if he knew we were getting charged.
It’s gonna be a fight for top 4 and we need everyone fighting together.
If not we’re in serious trouble.

 

[Brewster's millions]

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Careful, you’ll upset a few on here pointing out the facts.

People blaming a complete collapse like this solely on injuries and fatigue are living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[Solatron]

Lost it through poor game management.

Dick changed it for Villa, Pep didnt for City.......do things when you can not when you must.

Statement of the bleedin obvious (but very sensitive)....

We need a rebuild, refit & refresh at all levels of the football dept.

Imo, it's not worth trying to make new parts work on a broken machine, irrespective of how good and successful that machine has been.

We're getting a new DoF.

We're getting new players.

We're getting a new stand.

Is there anything else we shoud be considering/getting ??

I recall reading two books about Pep's time at Barca & Muchen and thinking that, with the intense pressure & stress he puts himself under, we'd probably get 3 seasons out of him.....and we' ve got 10 and the most amazing success and experiences.

Football is not worth risking your health for, and as City fans we know that probably better than most fans.

Some of the players need a break and a change, and perhaps Pep does too.

I wouldnt be supprised if he's already chatting confidentially with Khaldoon about a new coach coming in for next season.

Pep deserves a break to enjoy his golf,travel and family......and a legacy at City thats is unlikely to ever be surpassed !!

Great post. The players and manager are in danger of being remembered more for the most catastrophic decline in form over 4 months of any top side/champions in premier league history and fans becoming a laughing stock instead of leaving a legacy of being part of such an incredibly successful period of dominance for the last ten years never to be surpassed!
These players need to salvage some pride back sharpish and show some guts and bottle in the next few weeks until the new arrivals come in and the rebuild starts.

 

[flb]

He was bad today.

I don’t get this anti Rico stuff tbh , not as talented as his peers , he never stops running for this club , wipe your fannies and point the finger at other players - who to be frank are doing fuck all week in week out , I’ll not name them , but any blue with half a fucking brain should be able to work it out. Lay off the lad , at least he has energy, the bare minimum for our team - and Pep can see it.

 

[BlueMonkey79]

And I am not in the habit of taking advice from idiots , thanks

Just stick to the habit of talking shite instead then yeah.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

It's we have seen enough and it's not about losing, it's the ghosting and the players turned off and not hurting enough

You are speaking for yourself ancoats not everybody on the forum.

You are upset and disappointed, which is a perfectly reasonable take but not everybody feels the same.

And exactly how the payers are feeling is pure speculation in the opinion of the poster imo, because I suspect something very different.

 

[East Level 2]

I think Pep‘s done, the players aren’t playing for him anymore

it certainly looks like that, but who could get a good game from from Gundo in his current state, which coach could keep a team of perma-crocs fit or stop brain farts from so many of our current squad. A new coach might think up tactics more suitable to the players available, but there is no guarantee the players would respond.
We need a squad of at least 21 top players if we're to challenge on four fronts every season. Most players are at their peak for about seven years so we need an average of three top quality players every summer. And those players need to be fit 90% of the time and have lots of energy as they'll be internationals therefore playing with very few breaks.