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blueinsa said:
Questioning Pep pmsl.

Most of us are old enough and wise and experienced enough to understand that sport is cyclical and by fuck have we had some run with this squad.

Players are injured, it’s killed us and some need to go and be replaced.

It will happen, wipe your fannies, soft entitled cunts.
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Have to wait till the 77th page to say something that makes some sense!

Pep isn't the problem.. the players are the problem.

And the sad thing is.. we can sum up the last 2 months and this last game in 2 sentences..

1. No pass to Haaland in the box till the 90th minute.

2. Too easy for opposition to counter without a good press.
 
HamannCheese said:
I've mentioned it before, and I hate repeating myself, but has nobody seriously considered they know the outcome of the charges? Surely it can't be shit form, injuries and a lack of drive at the moment?
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So you are saying they knew the outcome of the case before it even started?
 
Damocles said:
Do you think he's forgotten how to coach in the last 6-8 weeks?
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An honest question...when has Pep ever had to coach a squad as littered with problems as this one? There is zero question Pep can manage elite players. But can he manage lesser players into anything resembling a competitive side? That is a valid question considering what we are seeing. There are squads with less than what we have now even with all of our injuries that don't look anywhere near this shit. We can't hold an early lead. We can't hold a late lead. We can't come from behind. We can't scrap out a few draws. While we can't put it all on Pep the idea that he is blameless is ridiculous.
 
The manner of the goals against....Leave the door unlocked and get burgled..simple as. When it happens continually, teams look forward to playing City, gone are the days when keeping it respectable was a triumph...Age and injuries exacerbate the situation, not sure they are solely to blame for what's happening on the pitch.
 
So while this shit continues I will continue to steal money of the bookies, 9/4 I got for a Villa win, Everton next, might as well lump on, I hate backing against my team but it's the only comfort I'm getting at the moment.
 
JewelZee said:
An honest question...when has Pep ever had to coach a squad as littered with problems as this one? There is zero question Pep can manage elite players. But can he manage lesser players into anything resembling a competitive side? That is a valid question considering what we are seeing. There are squads with less than what we have now even with all of our injuries that don't look anywhere near this shit. We can't hold an early lead. We can't hold a late lead. We can't come from behind. We can't scrap out a few draws. While we can't put it all on Pep the idea that he is blameless is ridiculous.
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Can you name a manager who can get effective performances out of a squad where 70% of his players are either injured or unfit? Anyone at all
 
Defeat in isolation at Villa isn't bad. They are a really good team and difficult to play there .

Its the manner of the performance, set from the first seconds.

Terrible run, tough opponents away. Keep it tight for 15 mins and grow into the game. We literally give them a clean run on goal from another mistake 10 seconds into the game and should have been behind but for 2 great saves from Ortega. On the back foot straight away, and never got off it.

Body language after the first goal was terrible, all looking like they would rather be Christmas shopping than at villa park, no leadership, no rousing of the troops.

The league is toast, but still so much to play for, but something has to change, quickly. If O'Reilly can't get a game in this midfield then he never will.
 
HamannCheese said:
I've mentioned it before, and I hate repeating myself, but has nobody seriously considered they know the outcome of the charges? Surely it can't be shit form, injuries and a lack of drive at the moment?
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Considering that the people who decide the outcome of the charges don't yet know the outcome of the charges then I find this unlikely
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
A super supporter like you shouldn't need any help as you clearly have all the answers.

And don't let Monkey Man get even more pissed if you care for fellow supporters. You know it makes sense.
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Unlike yourself I’m not purporting to be a massive blue - I don’t feel the need to do so to be honest - and I readily admit that I don’t have all the answers because it would be silly to believe that.

I’m merely expressing an opinion on the current slump in form and, for whatever reason (not especially interested), you feel the need to react to any opinion which differs from your own, be abusive to them and generally be a bit of a dick towards people.

It’s tedious attention seeking and you should give it a rest.
 
Stiff Little Wingers said:
Every manager has a shelf life for whatever reason.
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There is at least two managers in the somewhat modern era that didn't have shelf life, and remained competive at all times for most of their career. There is no reason to believe that Pep, an absolute genius isn't more like them, and less like the others.

But, if it were the case that we had a squad in prime age and the young players stopped playing for him, maybe there would be an argument to be made about switching managers not being a terrible idea. But when the reality is that half of these players are approaching the twilight of their career and the rest of them presumably haven't even entered their peak yet, I think it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that a major surgery in the squad while sticking with what still is the greatest manager in the world is the safest thing to do.

If there is huge issues next year with a new group of players, most critically related to our playing style being inferior to the focus on pace and directness that seems to have become the norm amongst young managers these days, maybe we can talk about parting ways with the greatest manager we will ever see
 
Watching Brighton playing with energy trying to take 3 points. Can't remember when we played like that.
 
dukyblue said:
Defeat in isolation at Villa isn't bad. They are a really good team and difficult to play there .

Its the manner of the performance, set from the first seconds.

Terrible run, tough opponents away. Keep it tight for 15 mins and grow into the game. We literally give them a clean run on goal from another mistake 10 seconds into the game and should have been behind but for 2 great saves from Ortega. On the back foot straight away, and never got off it.

Body language after the first goal was terrible, all looking like they would rather be Christmas shopping than at villa park, no leadership, no rousing of the troops.

The league is toast, but still so much to play for, but something has to change, quickly. If O'Reilly can't get a game in this midfield then he never will.
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I think most of us would take a result and performance like that if it was in isolation. But this has become our level at the moment and in all honesty it shouldn't be.
 
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