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Why can’t we just defend deeper until our injury crisis is over?

If you are on a run like we are first thing is don’t lose. Play more compact and stop getting into situations where defenders are having to chase down a counter attack where they’ve been out numbered. Create that platform rather than what we have now when a goal goes in all belief goes and defeat becomes another self fulfilling prophecy.

We can’t outwork teams at the moment, you could accept it if we went down scrapping today. Instead it’s all to passive and accepting the situation.
 
Got home at 1630hrs.
Fucking shocking all over the park today. Only 2 who at least tried a bit were Foden and Grealish and I am struggling with even that.
Rico Lewis...absolute shocker...again. Championship player at best.
Gundogan..should never have returned. To slow..legs gone.
Haaland...Awful effort again. Look at Isak at Newcastle. A workhorse who scores aswell. Haaland is a lazy lazy ****.
Those 3 for me were the worst but nothing positive from anyone today.
To see the likes of Lavia,Palmer,Porro, to name but 3 at other clubs doing well fucking reeks of penny pinching which solely lies at Txikis door.
Morgan Rogers today fucking so good. Oh look another one we decided wasnt good enough yet Rico Lewis is. Fuck off man
This team needed rebuilding post Istanbul but again we decided stick with what we have pretty much is another bad bad decision. Spend when you are on top. Lets see what January brings player wise. Sign players who can slot into the style or dont bother. Write the season off.

Pep has lots of credit but deserves criticism today. No Savio , Doku, or KDB to create from the start is simply unacceptable and then yet again subbing when the games gone is bizarre. We could all see they were overunning us in the middle again...Yet he waits. Fucking twatish decision

This team did not try today and for me that is simply unacceptable and I will NOT accept it.

STONES..sell. Cannot carry him any more no matter how much we love him.
Bang on the money this post
 
Switched TV off when Villa scored their second.

Predictable, passive, pathetic. If these players are 100% behind Pep and his system, I dread to think how poor they'd be if they ever turned against him.

It's Groundhog Day every week. 10 or 12 new players needed over the next two windows.
Ahhh bless you snowflake , turned the television off because your teams not winning.
The kind of supporter that successful clubs are built around.
Liverpool are on tomorrow maybe watch that & ask Santa for a 1/2 & 1/2 scarf .
 
Switched TV off when Villa scored their second.

Predictable, passive, pathetic. If these players are 100% behind Pep and his system, I dread to think how poor they'd be if they ever turned against him.

It's Groundhog Day every week. 10 or 12 new players needed over the next two windows.
Come on mate this has been a great side its now past its best but what a run we've had.
 
I've mentioned it before, and I hate repeating myself, but has nobody seriously considered they know the outcome of the charges? Surely it can't be shit form, injuries and a lack of drive at the moment?
Nobody knows the outcome of the charges.
 
Who are the 2? If you're talking about Ferguson, even he had a shelf life. It is the natural order of things in football.
The points you make are fair and I'm not necessarily saying I'm right but I am wondering whether Pep still has it in him to reach those highest standards again.
Very harsh to say Ferguson had a shelf-life as a manager.

The other is Ancelotti who has remained competetive and relevant for nigh on 25 years.

Anyway, saying perhaps the most revolutionary manager football has seen has come to to the end of his shelf-life after his first streak of adversity is a bit premature I think.

If I had to put money on any coach on the planet to reinvent the wheel I'd put them on Pep to do it yet again, and I'd like it to be for us and not giving him away prematurely for some other teams benefit.
 
Their first goal was just a simple through ball for a pre rehearsed routine. High line, time the run correctly and they are through. Even worse the second runner (the scorer) was 4 to 5 yards in front of our 'chasing' defenders. The high line with a slow defence is suicidal and is absolutely killing us. When we played Liverpool they just hit the ball over our defence towards the corner flags and beat us to it time after time.

Our midfield of Gundo, Kovacic, Foden and sometimes an overworked Lewis was also slow and lacked height and power. We need some muscle.

Grealish played well I thought and Bernardo ideally needs a real rest to recharge.

Haaland: He doesn't make his own goals, he is not great at link up play and he is not the hardest of workers. However he is a great goalscorer given the chances. The way we play is just not compatible with his strengths and it is a wonder he has done so well. We need to either change our style or change our striker.

Pep: I think he needs to accept that his tika taka tactics have been rumbled by teams just sitting back and waiting to break very, very fast when given the opportunity. Villa today had deliberately targeted our slow high line defence and so will/does everyone else. In some games, just high energy attacks for 10 minutes overwhelms us. It's a tough, tough ask to change heartfelt tactics at the end of your career but he will need to innovate and come up with tactics that do not end up with us passing the ball around a packed penalty area whilst Haaland is marked by two huge centre backs.
 
At least this slump is saving me a fortune and my health!!

Nothing better than having a few, maybe 6 or 7 beers with my mates after a City win.

Now I just can't get up for it.

What a shit 2 months.

Roll on 2025. Might end up doing dry January if this run continues.

Every cloud and all that.
 
That's 13 out of 22 senior players. So closer to 60%.
His squad is more than 22 players though.
Pep has to manage the squad.
Of the outfield players , it has to be better to play a younger player like O Reilly and give Gundogan a rest.
You say e.g. Grealish is unfit, so why not play McAtee or Savinho or Doku, instead of him.
 
Their first goal was just a simple through ball for a pre rehearsed routine. High line, time the run correctly and they are through. Even worse the second runner (the scorer) was 4 to 5 yards in front of our 'chasing' defenders. The high line with a slow defence is suicidal and is absolutely killing us. When we played Liverpool they just hit the ball over our defence towards the corner flags and beat us to it time after time.

Our midfield of Gundo, Kovacic, Foden and sometimes an overworked Lewis was also slow and lacked height and power. We need some muscle.

Grealish played well I thought and Bernardo ideally needs a real rest to recharge.

Haaland: He doesn't make his own goals, he is not great at link up play and he is not the hardest of workers. However he is a great goalscorer given the chances. The way we play is just not compatible with his strengths and it is a wonder he has done so well. We need to either change our style or change our striker.

Pep: I think he needs to accept that his tika taka tactics have been rumbled by teams just sitting back and waiting to break very, very fast when given the opportunity. Villa today had deliberately targeted our slow high line defence and so will/does everyone else. In some games, just high energy attacks for 10 minutes overwhelms us. It's a tough, tough ask to change heartfelt tactics at the end of your career but he will need to innovate and come up with tactics that do not end up with us passing the ball around a packed penalty area whilst Haaland is marked by two huge centre backs.
Excellent post mate.
 
GOD FORBID a young player who wants to get minutes... and I'm quoting Cole, "Come back as prepared as possible for the first team."

How about this for a truth? Pep's giant ego couldn't handle the fact that a player wouldn't want to ride the bench and train under him daily like McAtee currently is.
Giant ego lol, i have read some bollocks today but really . Pep has earned an ego and to decide who to keep and who to sel!
 
Their first goal was just a simple through ball for a pre rehearsed routine. High line, time the run correctly and they are through. Even worse the second runner (the scorer) was 4 to 5 yards in front of our 'chasing' defenders. The high line with a slow defence is suicidal and is absolutely killing us. When we played Liverpool they just hit the ball over our defence towards the corner flags and beat us to it time after time.

Our midfield of Gundo, Kovacic, Foden and sometimes an overworked Lewis was also slow and lacked height and power. We need some muscle.

Grealish played well I thought and Bernardo ideally needs a real rest to recharge.

Haaland: He doesn't make his own goals, he is not great at link up play and he is not the hardest of workers. However he is a great goalscorer given the chances. The way we play is just not compatible with his strengths and it is a wonder he has done so well. We need to either change our style or change our striker.

Pep: I think he needs to accept that his tika taka tactics have been rumbled by teams just sitting back and waiting to break very, very fast when given the opportunity. Villa today had deliberately targeted our slow high line defence and so will/does everyone else. In some games, just high energy attacks for 10 minutes overwhelms us. It's a tough, tough ask to change heartfelt tactics at the end of your career but he will need to innovate and come up with tactics that do not end up with us passing the ball around a packed penalty area whilst Haaland is marked by two huge centre backs.
it's almost like watching some kind of psychotic sprint race as their attackers and our defenders jostle to get into a sprint race, with the whole of our half to run in to....it really is kamikaze football, it worked when we dominated the ball with purpose but now we are just inviting it on
 
If you are on a run like we are first thing is don’t lose. Play more compact and stop getting into situations where defenders are having to chase down a counter attack where they’ve been out numbered. Create that platform rather than what we have now when a goal goes in all belief goes and defeat becomes another self fulfilling prophecy.

We can’t outwork teams at the moment, you could accept it if we went down scrapping today. Instead it’s all to passive and accepting the situation.

You’re absolutely right.

But, this won’t happen. Pep doesn’t understand / know how to play that way.
 
Come on mate this has been a great side its now past its best but what a run we've had.

I agree completely mate, but the decline has been far too quick for my liking.

We were - very clearly - the best team in the world until the FA Cup final in May. We were a shadow of our best in that game, and performances have been largely below our expected standards ever since then.

Injuries or not, there's absolutely no excuse for a club of this size, wealth, and experience allowing a squad to drift 'past it's best'.

Succession planning has been non-existent.
 
Respect to all constructive criticism of the squad, I’d also include peps tactics. This inverted vanity project of Rico moving inside from the full back position is killing us, I’ve never seen a player so out of position as Rico. I really think it’s flawed, stepping stones in 2 seasons ago worked most of the time. Rodri had to adjust. However we’re crowding our own space and teams won’t be sucked in, they’ve got their shape and system and stick to their game plan.
We have almost zero penetration and create very few opportunities to score from early crosses.
When do we see our fullbacks go beyond our wingers and cross the ball. Something has to change unfortunately I think pep is to stubborn.
Recruitment and selling of Alvarez and Cole palmer have turned out absolutely horrendous decisions, putting everything into Haaland who has desires to play in Spain has been shortsighted. Today was probably as bad a team as I’ve seen for 12 years or more.Bernardo continues to disappoint we show no pace in attack, slow build up play . Teams get back into shape and we offer zero pressure on the opponents goal, no wonder Tixi is leaving. What a rebuild is required..
 

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