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People can go on all they like about the players we've sold, At the time of these transfers it PROVED that the club made the right choices by moving them on as we've been hugely successful winning trophies.

I disagree with this logic, especially when it's about young players in positions that are currently weak spots. You could say Chelsea were proven right about Salah and De Bruyne when they won the league in 2015 and 2017 after selling them, but when these two players go on to dominate the league for the next 10 years while Chelsea themselves slide into a rut then it is fair to criticise the short-sightedness of the squad planning
 
I tell you what, we’re fucking lucky we beat Forest. If we lost to them we’d be TEN points behind them now and out of the top 4 race already.
Sadly mate, I don’t think we are a top 4 team this season. I’m hoping we might recover and go deep in the FA cup
 
I tell you what, we’re fucking lucky we beat Forest. If we lost to them we’d be TEN points behind them now and out of the top 4 race already.
Add to that several fluky points earlier in the season when we scraped wins and draws - without that early season good luck - including catching Chelsea "cold" in game 1 - we really could be down with the dead men. It was a miracle that we were at the top, and undefeated for so long.

Oh well; another pointless weekend. The only way that fresh legs are going into this team is if the club buy them in January. I understand Pep's reluctance to use any youth, but it is baffling as to why he is so intent on persevering with players who are proving their inadequacies by the week - being perpetually off form, unfit, or both.

Pep seems intent on proving his point while the team's decline continues. How close are we to breaking-point? 1 win in 12 is really pushing it, now. We looked a class below Villa today. It's come to something when I'm hoping we'll get a point at home against Everton on Boxing Day, but, that's all I'm hoping for at the moment.

I've got the Christmas blues.
 
Too many people like you on here trying to prove what "big Blues" you are by accepting, and making excuses for, substandard performances.

I've seen 63+ years of City, and I can honestly say, I've never been more disappointed with any group of City players than our current squad.

I've watched generations of typical City...average squads being average, good squads being good, shit squads being shit and, more recently, great squads being great... Our current highly paid, very expensively built squad is falling a long way behind abilities and expectations, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.

Blame lies with Pep, his coaching staff (the silent men) and Txiki Begiristain.

The squad is largely made up of players who are; past their best, made of glass, out of their depth, or simply badly used. Succession planning has been unbelievably poor.

Major reconstruction is needed for 25/26 season.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe they are just mentally and physically shot, and what they need is patience and understanding, especially given that the last three years have probably been the best of those 63?
 
Trying to nake sense of it probably comes down to do we believe Pep can employ the right tactics going forward and can he recruit the right players for whatever system he wants to implement from transfers or youth.

Think we are entitled to ask these questions without deriding his past achievements
The question is - do we believe someone else can do the things you say better than Pep can. If you know who that someone else is , please let me know
 
Stop crying you fkin mard arse. We can't win every title every year. Deal with it or keep crying.
Not having a go here chum but I don’t think it’s we want to win the league every year no one’s that deluded. More the performance of the team, which I think you’ll agree is fucking woeful.
 
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The Monday night before the cup final started it.
The club allowed the players to get pissed, (until 4am) and that gave them permission to lose the final. It was now acceptable, who could better the treble and then 4 in a row ? The final was just the first 'it's ok to lose match

I know why it was done, it took huge mental strength to win 4 in a row but professional athletes should not have gone on the piss until after the final. . They switched off and have not got the mental strength to switch back on again as the more we lose the less painful and more acceptable it is.

They became immortal when they won 4 in a row. Nobody would give a fuck if we’d lost to anyone else.
 
I disagree with this logic, especially when it's about young players in positions that are currently weak spots. You could say Chelsea were proven right about Salah and De Bruyne when they won the league in 2015 and 2017 after selling them, but when these two players go on to dominate the league for the next 10 years while Chelsea themselves slide into a rut then it is fair to criticise the short-sightedness of the squad planning
Some in here think that because you win something - you can't possibly have been even better. It's a complacent, unanalytical logic. However those thinking it is possible are obviously Johnny come lately and spoiled.
 
You are the one who needs to do that!!!!
I wonder how you’d feel if your job ended by you getting older and people abusing you and saying you should **** off?
Give it a rest and respect a player who has worked hard for us.
I think if he had been earning £10m a year for six or seven years with a chance of a huge pay day (Saudi Arabia) and then the opportunity to spend the cash with no pressures of trying to keep his battered and broken body fit for elite sport, he'd enjoy being told to eff off

I loved playing football (to an utterly shit standard) but I knew when my body couldn't even perform at that level, so retired

Stones is a sicknote and a drain on resources
 

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