Aston Villa (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[deano ou812]

Everton at home, we could and should have been behind, thankfully Beto is shit.

Brentford away, not top sure we got out of our own half in the second half.

Playing OK for 45 minutes isn't anywhere near good enough, as shown today once you do that against even a half decent side you'll get turned over.

That's the point I was trying to make about papering over the cracks. We can't even keep possession of the ball anymore and that's not from pressure from the opposition, that's just from us being shit in possession in general.

Take Donnarumma and Haaland out of this side and we'd be in the bottom half of the table.

Absolutely spot on,some players just aren’t good enough for were we want to be,others just aren’t consistent enough as it stands and a few older ones need moving on..

 

[Bluearmy]

I’ve accepted that we’ll never see these kind of wingers again.

There are players that we could’ve got who know where the goals are. They might not be the fanciest names but they know how to get g/a. Gakpo, Bowen, Lookman.

But unfortunately the club continues down this path of project players.

As soon as Soriano involved himself in football matters, we were in big trouble

 

[deano ou812]

I'd happily take Semenyo.

Then again, I'd happily take Lauren Hemp if it meant I didn't have to watch Savinho again.

Lol

 

[Bluearmy]

I'd happily take Semenyo.

Then again, I'd happily take Lauren Hemp if it meant I didn't have to watch Savinho again.

Hard to argue

 

[blue_danube]

Poor performance

The result itself isn't a big shock though. I think the level of where we are now isn't much different to the likes of Villa anyway.

We are closer to them than we are to arsenal and that'll be reflected once 38 games are complete

 

[AK45]

Kovacic had been on the bench for the previous 5 games, if he wasn’t ready now then he never will be. Playing without a defensive mid was a bit mad, and also dropping Nico O to facilitate stones, whilst playing Gvardiol out of position was even madder.

Our wide men are dross and we need to find a solution to that mess. This whole season will be very up and down, we aren’t good enough for a title run in and it’s a transition year but we shouldn’t shoot ourselves in the foot pre match with our selections.

 

[Earlyriser]

We all accept we are in some form of transition and that is used to explain some of our poor performances. However given the gash performances of the majority of our recent signings how can there be any realistic confidence that we will get it right on the signings we so clearly need

 

[Chak19]

Kovacic had been on the bench for the previous 5 games, if he wasn’t ready now then he never will be. Playing without a defensive mid was a bit mad, and also dropping Nico O to facilitate stones, whilst playing Gvardiol out of position was even madder.

Our wide men are dross and we need to find a solution to that mess. This whole season will be very up and down, we aren’t good enough for a title run in and it’s a transition year but we shouldn’t shoot ourselves in the foot pre match with our selections.

Yeah the Kova situation is just typical Pep player management, you just don't understand what the fuck is going on.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

True, but we've won titles since losing legends like Sergio, David Silva, Yaya and Vincent.

We still had legends like Kevin, Gundo, Fernandinho and Rodri. Today's team had none of them barring Haaland and you've got to provide for him.

 

[wolviedinho]

Pep said something like “ I know the players I used to have, brought up Alvarez I think”.

He knows they ain’t good enough, the current level reflects badly on him and his methods. The attacking level is poor and so is the possession although improved of late.

Viana coming in seemed due but the last few txiki signings and now the new viana/txiki signing are not good enough to perform for city nor pep.

What to do? No point slagging off the players if not able to carry out the task

Rebuilds need luck it seems. We badly need to get 3 top signing right at the very least maybe 4 in total.

Wingers who score x 2
Defender to replace Ake/stones and challenge Dias and gvardiol.

Fbs seem ok.

Midfield is weak that includes cm/dm and both wings.

4 min needed. ruthless approach needed instead of years of mediocre performances.

or just be happy that we have won it all and bounce around the top 6 and maybe win a cup.

That’s the decision now.

I would move out:
Stones
Ake
Savio
Bobb
Bernardo

Next season if no better Rijnders, and maybe Dias.

Doku and mar also question marks.

No wonder we lose so many games.

 

[ancoats]

Interesting.

The lack of commitment from our better players comes from the starting line up I reckon.

I've never associated a Pep team with wingers, it was always ball playing midfielders who could fill in anywhere.

Now we are playing with out and out wide men that aren't very good. This leaves our midfield overrun, our defence under pressure and an attack out numbered.

Whatever anyone thought Savinho would become, he hasn't!

Bobb is nowhere near a starter in a tough game.

Nunes gets by against fodder at full back, that's it.

If they all left I would only be mildly concerned about Bobb, even though there is no guarantee he will make it with us.

Pep is a master and knows the race to the finish line better than anybody else.
9 games into a new season doesn't win or lose you the title and Pep has proved it time and time again

Give Pep his best 11 with 20 games to play and we will see, Also Cherki and Marmoush will get fully match fit and Rodri should be starting, Yes it's a bad day at the office and losing is painful and easy to pick out and pin the blame on 2 or 3 players,

i am not a fan of Savinho or playing both wingers, but i understand the option of risking players that are not fully fit and asking far too much at this part of the season, Pep had a game plan today and it didn't work out,

 

[deano ou812]

The three wingers aren’t producing time to get some who will,Bobb showed huge potential but that’s all,he hasn’t kicked on,maybe that’s still due to his injury I don’t know,but the lad in his national team looks a far far better player Nusa is it,goals and even more so assists..

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Also....
We are to fucking nice.
No Ferna,Tevez,Bellamy type player.
All fucking shit houses.

The pen shout - not one player fucking appealed for it. Not one.

Meanwhile they all have their hands in the air in the 80th min when desperate even though it very clearly hit their man in the face!

What a superb block that was too. No hands behind his back from him!

 

[Gumzy97]

I'd happily take Semenyo.

Then again, I'd happily take Lauren Hemp if it meant I didn't have to watch Savinho again.

Didn’t realise how consistent Semenyo has been 3 seasons in the prem he’s been a consistent goal scorer. Improving every season. We’d be stupid not to try for him only 25 as well

1st season 8 goals 2 assists
2nd season 11 goals 5 assists
This season so far 6 goals 3 assists

 

[TheBlueCat]

Pep said something like “ I know the players I used to have, brought up Alvarez I think”.

He knows they ain’t good enough, the current level reflects badly on him and his methods. The attacking level is poor and so is the possession although improved of late.

Viana coming in seemed due but the last few txiki signings and now the new viana/txiki signing are not good enough to perform for city nor pep.

What to do? No point slagging off the players if not able to carry out the task

Rebuilds need luck it seems. We badly need to get 3 top signing right at the very least maybe 4 in total.

Wingers who score x 2
Defender to replace Ake/stones and challenge Dias and gvardiol.

Fbs seem ok.

Midfield is weak that includes cm/dm and both wings.

4 min needed. ruthless approach needed instead of years of mediocre performances.

or just be happy that we have won it all and bounce around the top 6 and maybe win a cup.

That’s the decision now.

I would move out:
Stones
Ake
Savio
Bobb
Bernardo

Next season if no better Rijnders, and maybe Dias.

Doku and mar also question marks.

No wonder we lose so many games.

Think it would be good to have proper full backs personally..

 

[Prophet of Doom]

You could pull any winger out of the Championship and he would provide more than Bobb.

Absolute fucking bonkers that he is playing almost every game for City whilst contributing nowt every games

 

[ancoats]

Pep said something like “ I know the players I used to have, brought up Alvarez I think”.

He knows they ain’t good enough, the current level reflects badly on him and his methods. The attacking level is poor and so is the possession although improved of late.

Viana coming in seemed due but the last few txiki signings and now the new viana/txiki signing are not good enough to perform for city nor pep.

What to do? No point slagging off the players if not able to carry out the task

Rebuilds need luck it seems. We badly need to get 3 top signing right at the very least maybe 4 in total.

Wingers who score x 2
Defender to replace Ake/stones and challenge Dias and gvardiol.

Fbs seem ok.

Midfield is weak that includes cm/dm and both wings.

4 min needed. ruthless approach needed instead of years of mediocre performances.

or just be happy that we have won it all and bounce around the top 6 and maybe win a cup.

That’s the decision now.

I would move out:
Stones
Ake
Savio
Bobb
Bernardo

Next season if no better Rijnders, and maybe Dias.

Doku and mar also question marks.

No wonder we lose so many games.

Can I ask you a question
Before kick-off today, it was ok and we are going in the right direction ?

Look, if losing a game of football can change the whole outlook after 9 games, we might as well all fuck off and go back to supporting Chelsea again

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

To late we are stuck with dross ..

I think we could get them both but may have to wait for the summer.

 

[dickie davies]

At the end of the day it'll come down to whether we qualify for the CL.

Fucking hell
We've really turned into arsenal

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

for sure our wingers need to deliver more. if Haaland doesnt score then Savinho and Doku need to score 1 each. or Bobb.

why Bayern wingers score a lot despite KAne is firing them in too?
Olise, Gnabry, Luiz Diaz already on combined 14 goals this season in Bundesliga + CL games.

It's pitiful that Bayern have 3 wingers of that quality compared to the three we have. They are head and shoulders better than our 3. My only hope is Pep gets Cherki on the right and doesn't try and shoehorn him in centrally.