Atmosphere 2024/25

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Beaker said:
I’m hoping what has happened with regards to demand recently has opened one or two eyes at the club as to what they may have to do moving forwards. Finally some realistic pricing for the Salford game, non match day members being able to buy for the Brugge game as two examples. They got cocky, they thought the tourists would be there forever, they thought the good football would be there forever, they thought they would never have to sell to non members again, they thought they could guarantee refunds on the ticket exchange for 12 matches and sell them all every time at inflated prices, they thought they could charge what they wanted and it would get paid. They can’t.

I know Sorriano doesn’t give a fuck, but there must be people high up who do, and are thinking we need to do something about this.
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Surely he is doing something that khaldoon has asked him to ?
 
wearethesouthstand said:
And we’re not being personal

There’s neville chanberlain levels of appeasement amongst some in the fan base and we just feel unfair to lay the blame at door of fans who are pointing out the obvious to the club
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Agreed.

Decisions,agreements and arrangements made now will determine the structure for many years to come which is why i believe in my cause of.....

'Two end are better than one'

....where we can have, imo, the best of all worlds.

Keep persevering.
 
jrb said:
It might be a very small step. Visual if nothing. It certainly won't improve the atmosphere. But, I want City to ban half and half scarfs inside the Etihad next season.

When you come to watch City, you support City, not the opposing team, wearing their colours on your scarf.

Not only that, buying half and half scarfs from the souvenir hawkers outside the Etihad is taking money from the club, whilst the fans are facing increased season ticket and match day ticket price increases season after season.

The name Manchester City Football Club is owned by the club, and I would assume copy righted, so City, the City Council, and their trading standards department can confiscate fake City merch outside the ground. Chelsea are in the process of doing that legally.

By all means wear a scarf inside the ground, but wear a City scarf, not a half and half scarf.
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I would of thought City have moved them off by now? Looks cheap and nasty.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I would of thought City have moved them off by now? Looks cheap and nasty.
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I saw a tourist wearing a half and half scarf in the away end at OT.

Unfortunately for the tourist his half and half scarf didn't last long around his neck.

There was no aggression or violence. He was asked nicely to take it off, and explained why he shouldn't wear it in the City away end.

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Gone are the days when the club would allow Fergie cock and Neville cock into the ground on derby day.

Some people might think it's childish, but to me it's football fan banter. Something that is disappearing more and more from (PL) football matches as the clubs and the Police crack down on such behavior.

m.webp
 
mancityvstoke said:
nope .....£10 a pop for half and half v West Ham

Loads buying............if demand is high like v Real Madrid they put them at £20
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yeah see three stalls as I walk from Asda to the CB stand. mental and the price is ridiculous.
jrb said:
I saw a tourist wearing a half and half scarf in the away end at OT.

Unfortunately for the tourist his half and half scarf didn't last long around his neck.

There was no aggression or violence. He was asked nicely to take it off, and explained why he shouldn't wear it in the City away end.

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best way, no violence and a quickword
 
jrb said:
Gone are the days when the club would allow Fergie cock and Neville cock into the ground on derby day.

Some people might think it's childish, but to me it's football fan banter. Something that is disappearing more and more from (PL) football matches as the clubs and the Police crack down on such behavior.

m.webp
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It’s football mirroring life. You can’t say anything or do anything in case it offends. Football while be sterile in a decade or two.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Younger lads are going to County, macc, wherever.
Matches like that are still a bit like what we experienced all those years ago.
Prem football isnt and wont ever be the same again , sadly
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Having attended a few lower league games I agree. You can see it in the demographics. Way more younger fans and groups of lads, which you never really see at the etihad.
 
wearethesouthstand said:
Surely he is doing something that khaldoon has asked him to ?
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The description from a previous poster in another thread of Khaldoon as a wolf in sheep’s clothing is very apt in my opinion. He’s a ruthless hard-headed businessman, the bottom line will always be his number one priority. However, unlike Sorriano I do believe he does have the long term interests at heart, the problem is, despite his very polished interviews, he doesn’t understand English football culture, and I think he has fallen into the trap of thinking the good times and the corporate/tourists will always roll.

Somebody needs to lobby Khaldoon and implore him to demand change. We as a club from top to bottom will regret giving Sorriano the keys to the castle one day, he will fuck off soon enough and he won’t give City a second thought.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Having attended a few lower league games I agree. You can see it in the demographics. Way more younger fans and groups of lads, which you never really see at the etihad.
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Agree. It would be a lie to say everyone at lower league football is jumping up and down for 90mins, because they are not. But if you have small capacity and a standing section with no rail seating, even 30 organised vocal fans can make a huge difference. Throw in younger fans who can wander up on the turnstile or live locally and have a season ticket - at Altrincham, for example, they aren't actually much cheaper than our cheapest, the point is kids/young men and women can actually get one and attend spontaneously if they want - and you have as close to an old school atmosphere as you'll get without the aggro.
 
jrb said:
I saw a tourist wearing a half and half scarf in the away end at OT.

Unfortunately for the tourist his half and half scarf didn't last long around his neck.

There was no aggression or violence. He was asked nicely to take it off, and explained why he shouldn't wear it in the City away end.

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They are a weird invention. There was a guy in Colin Bell on Saturday, who had the City bit tucked in and the West Ham half hanging out so he looked, without realising, like he was a West Ham fan walking down the steps bold as brass in the home end. He didn't look like he was from overseas either, so no excuse, but he was basically causing a safety risk to himself and others.
 
Beaker said:
I’m hoping what has happened with regards to demand recently has opened one or two eyes at the club as to what they may have to do moving forwards. Finally some realistic pricing for the Salford game, non match day members being able to buy for the Brugge game as two examples. They got cocky, they thought the tourists would be there forever, they thought the good football would be there forever, they thought they would never have to sell to non members again, they thought they could guarantee refunds on the ticket exchange for 12 matches and sell them all every time at inflated prices, they thought they could charge what they wanted and it would get paid. They can’t.

I know Sorriano doesn’t give a fuck, but there must be people high up who do, and are thinking we need to do something about this.
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It's the short-termism affecting the whole of society. i completely understand why they would want to grow the club's revenues. But surely the wise way to do that is to keep cultivating people within 50 miles of the ground, or with a strong connection, and lock them in for life. Greater Manchester alone has a population of 2.8m - that's loads of room for more recurring revenue before you even look to the wider commuter zone and all the people nationally from the Manc/Blue diaspora. But clearly selling to a one-off at an inflated price who spends in the gift shop looks better for the numbers today, even if it's not as sustainable for the long-term as finding the next generation of loyal/local fans who will attend across all competitions for decades once they've got the bug.
 
If possible I will go in the away end on SSL1 one day. There are always ways to get tickets. Just to see and feel what’s it’s like being an away fan at the Etihad on SSL1, with the singing sections either side of me.
 
Do some on this thread really think that Soriano and Khaldoon are sitting round a table debating what price to stick on tickets for the Salford FA cup game ?? Do they think in the afternoon they move onto the price of chips and a pint of Asahi.

Sorry to disappoint but the pricing decisions are getting made much further down the food chain.

I doubt either Soriano or Khaldoon would have a clue how much a match ticket costs.

Ticket pricing is all analytics these days. Supply demand and the algorithm says charge £x. Unfortunately, loyalty, legacy, atmosphere, half and half scarves etc are not fed into the calculation. It’s basically what is the highest price that the match will sell out ( or nearly sell out ). If it close to full they will think the algorithm has done its job to perfection. An early sell out indicates it was too cheap !

Every club is at it. Atmospheres around the country are dying a slow death and it will never change.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
We had almost 1,500 supporter responses and our red lines were :

*That the stand should be built with acoustics in mind and the position of "singers" central to the stand.

* Pricing plans for season card and match day prices laid out for the next 5 years for the North Stand and other areas of the ground as a comparison - vital if supporters are expected to make a long term move. 1894's position is two year freeze on season and match day tickets to allow fans to catch up followed by inflationary rises only after the 2 years have been completed.

* Maintaining the current 70% ratio of season card holders amongst the 8,000 extra capacity to reverse the recent trend of not releasing new season tickets. (ie 5,600 season cards - not the extortionate Flexi Gold)

* 7,000 - 8,000 rail seats in North Stand Level 2.

* An 18-25 year old section.

* Additional rail seating in South Level 3 to mirror the noise coming from a higher atmospheric section in North Stand Level 2 so that the two ends are encouraged to sing to each other.

* A re-think from the club on the positioning, indeed the addition of general admission / hospitality seats in an "atmospheric" North Stand from what had been disclosed on images over the last few months.




It's starting to look to me that whoever wrote that statement does not understand what "red lines" are.
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The should have stuck to Blue lines!
 
jrb said:
Bar wanting to increase match day revenue which is the main goal of the North stand expansion, the club HAVE TO FILL AN EXTRA 8000 SEATS for every home match, not just for the big matches. At the current match day seats prices, the club won’t be able to do that.(in my opinion)
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I got largely scorned and ridiculed on here many months ago for expressing this opinion. Labelled a 'Rag' etc.

However with the dip in form it has been noticeable there's been an increasing number of empty seats. This is what happens when you lust after money instead of looking after the local working class fans who have a genuine attachment to the club. 8000 seats is a fucking lot of seats to fill at current prices and it has to be approached correctly. It appears £70 a ticket is still a lot of money to a football tourist -let alone a local- when performances slide. Ironically this is when the team needs us the most. Should be a wake up call to some of our supporters as well as the hierarchy.
 
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citymad said:
Which begs the question, where are the new fans going to come from when they open the north end expansion ? Especially with the tickets being so expensive.
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There were thousands of fans who weren't going regularly in need of of 3 or 4 seats together / family groups, It's hard to say whether or not our recent losing run or anti City media have impacted on tis demand. In addition, each time the corporate and hospitality sections have been expanded, they seemed to sell out, ay least until recently.

We are pretty much guaranteed hundreds of unsold single tickets for all but the very biggest games. Unless much more imaginative ways are found to sell these tickets as ticket price reductions alone only shifts so many,
 
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