Atmosphere 2024/25

[Petethemancinleeds]

This is a uk wide phenomenum , it felt like an away game outside before and after with pockets of old school blues here and there. Some just support a player or brand including the champs league. Bizarrely my ticket was in the tier the xxxxwits from Madrid couldnt sell and from above their fanbase resembled Fulhams at best.

Some Geordie will be sat, stood there Saturday and the Green Army a week or so later. Maybe Millwall in a cup quarter final!

 

[Marvin.]

You know the club is fucked when a football fan, don't know who he supports, if any team, can get tickets in the home end and sheers his son's hair off before kick off. What the fuck has the club become?

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Strange. I don't mind the Indian flag but the clippers?

I have to defend a lot of the Asian support that follows City on a match day because I am one. I have been sat with City fans before who see foreigners amongst them and think they are not City fans. And they are completely wrong. This is just another scapegoat. Along with the foreign fans, are loads of families and kids. They never sing either. The kids scream, and sing daft songs on their own. They'd love it if 115 sang and they could join in.

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

I gave up the champ lge cup scheme a few years ago due to cost, plus tbh it was never fun the final few years as 102 ended up full of away fans time and time again. But tonight my son was desperate to go - "please, please, i've never been to a champions league game, and everyone at school supports Real Madrid so this will make them jealous".
Terrible reasoning, but he genuinely was desperate to go (he's 8) (and don't get me started on the fact that school kids in England genuinely claim that a foreign team are their no 1 team... He's surrounded by Madrid fans, rags, and liverpool at school. Not one person goes to games, but the fact he has a season ticket doesn't even give him any "cred" as they think watching on the telly is enough)

So i gave in and got 2 tickets - but for the family stand as a one off, as it was a lot cheaper than in our own seats in 102. I've been going since age 10 in 1985 and barely missed a home game league or cup (til giving up champ league a couple of seasons ago) for the last 35 years so how could i really say no, as a one off..

Big mistake, as he ended up swamped in a large group of twentysomething half and half scarf wearing spanish people.... My son loves city, he proudly comes to games, and i'm proud that after mum died city let her ticket pass to him. But he started crying. A few minutes in. He was overwhelmed and not in a good way. This is not how it should be. This is a kid who has chanted in the derby, been to 2 fa cup finals and coped with it all, he's on about 70 games now. But stuck with big tall away fans in the family stand, he reverted back to the 2 year old who cried at his first match when Phil Foden scored and the place got too much for him.
Away fans, at such large numbers, should not be in the home end.
/speech over.

(and his words at half time, from his quiet face were "i thought it would be fun..." - heartbreaking)

(We'll be back in our own seats Saturday, let's hope for a cracker...)

You should send that to the club. A disgrace

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

I didn't see any tourists sat near me just blues. But I was in the pub; )

 

[Marvin.]

Totally agree.
Genuine fans missing out.
I described it like going to famous tourist attraction.
Honestly don't think I heard a Manc accent coming out at the end.

We'll see if these 'tourists' are here when it aint the dippers or an attractive club.

Dare I say it if we miss out on top 4 lets see who rocks up for Viktoria Plzeň?????

I see those Asians too. They feel comfortable coming to City. I used to get battered at school all the time ut I'd go to City and never had a problem because the City scarf was all I needed to fit in. It's a bit upsetting to me as some one who is half-Iraqi to find what I think is racism amongst City fans.

No and of course the Asian new supporters wouldn't turn up if we struggle. Neither would new 'traditional' fans. What you mean is white.

A problem is that the traditional blues, maybe up to 3/4 of City's season ticket holders are not going any more to Cup games, and the character of City's fans is being lost. It has not mattered over the last 10 years because there's always been a core group going and they keep the DNA of the fanbase but if they stop going, then the atmosphere will vanish.

 

[fathellensbellend]

Strange. I don't mind the Indian flag but the clippers?

I have to defend a lot of the Asian support that follows City on a match day because I am one. I have been sat with City fans before who see foreigners amongst them and think they are not City fans. And they are completely wrong. This is just another scapegoat. Along with the foreign fans, are loads of families and kids. They never sing either. The kids scream, and sing daft songs on their own. They'd love it if 115 sang and they could join in.

I couldn’t care less where anybody is from if they are passionate blues, or blues starting on a journey, I think it’s brilliant City appeal to everyone, what I don’t like is the complete alienation of literally thousands of fans in search of the highest bidder. Makes you wonder how many tickets went to third party sites last night. The clue is in the name Manchester City, I am not Mancunian, but it was the Mancunian people that made City the unique wonderful club it is, and those people should be front and centre of our support, being able to afford every home game, The fact is City could have played that game anywhere in the world last night, we only need to change the colour of our shirt and it’s not City anymore, oh that’s happening in the club World Cup. It’s abysmal nothing will alter may view on that.

 

[TheGhost]

‘Traditional’ City fans have the chance to go games and choose not to. They’re replaced by tourists and away fans. Who’s to blame here?

Also the ticket office setting the criteria at previous home Champions League attendance rather than loyalty points tells you all you need to know. A Madrid fan only had to have attended one of the last 4 games we’ve played against them to be able to buy a ticket again.

 

[Sibierskii]

For comparison, see Celtic park tonight.

It’ll be bouncing and they’ll be no fucker having a haircut in an Indian flag

 

[Indaparkside]

I see those Asians too. They feel comfortable coming to City. I used to get battered at school all the time ut I'd go to City and never had a problem because the City scarf was all I needed to fit in. It's a bit upsetting to me as some one who is half-Iraqi to find what I think is racism amongst City fans.

No and of course the Asian new supporters wouldn't turn up if we struggle. Neither would new 'traditional' fans. What you mean is WHITE

I was waiting for the race card to be thrown in can’t people have a say without being racist, your last line to me sounds there’s only you being racist

 

[Marvin.]

The tourist argument is a trojan-horse for racism.

There are some genuine problems such as regular fans not showing up, and away fans getting seats in home areas and tickets given to fans unfairly. It should be based on games you've been to. Now money matters.

Some people are confusing issues. It's brilliant that so many Asian supporters feel happy to come to City. We also see the same thing on less glamorous FA Cup games and games like Brugge when loads of young families come. They don't sing either by the way. The atmosphere has always relied on the South Stand and a core group of singers. If their numbers dwindle, then so will the noise and singing.

 

[.db.]

I see those Asians too. They feel comfortable coming to City. I used to get battered at school all the time ut I'd go to City and never had a problem because the City scarf was all I needed to fit in. It's a bit upsetting to me as some one who is half-Iraqi to find what I think is racism amongst City fans.

No and of course the Asian new supporters wouldn't turn up if we struggle. Neither would new 'traditional' fans. What you mean is white.

A problem is that the traditional blues, maybe up to 3/4 of City's season ticket holders are not going any more to Cup games, and the character of City's fans is being lost. It has not mattered over the last 10 years because there's always been a core group going and they keep the DNA of the fanbase but if they stop going, then the atmosphere will vanish.

Nobody has said owt about ‘Asians’. There’s nothing remotely racist about expressing feeling disheartened that half or even the majority of some blocks in the stadium had people stood there emotionless or even staying sat down for our goals.

The people being described are Champions League tourists. They aren’t particularly there for City or Madrid, they are there for City v Madrid in the Champions League.

There were City fans from other countries there and there were Madrid fans in the home end too, and that’s been going on for some time. But last night was an eye opener for seeing the sheer amount of Champions League spectators at the game. They used to get the back half of 105 and bits of 223 and 228, last night they had swathes of the stadium.

 

[Indaparkside]

Nobody has said owt about ‘Asians’.

Bang on the money mate don’t need to say no more

 

[franksinatra]

I totally understand the frustrations on here but what could have been done differently?

From my understanding all season ticket holders got a chance to buy and then the tickets were sold based upon points to Cityzen holders. So So it could have been full of the regulars if they had chosen to go.

So what stopped people? The price? Previous Champions league experiences? Club not allowing tickets to go on the exchange? and what can change going forward.

Something seems wrong that City have grown so much, all reports indicate growth in our support but when the regulars don’t go we don’t have the numbers to fill the spaces.

When we add the North stand I think things will become much worse..

 

[Marvin.]

For comparison, see Celtic park tonight.

It’ll be bouncing and they’ll be no fucker having a haircut in an Indian flag

Why shouldn't they bring an Indian flag. Of course I don't know what the clippers are doing there but amongst any group you will find odd behaviour.

We are having this discussion because some of you are not comfortable around Asians and City have attracted a huge number of Asian fans because Manchester is a cosmopolitan city and City were doing well. On a big football night, they go to the football. Why shouldn't they?

Celtic don't have 20,000 new fans and I don't think many Asians go to football in Glasgow. Manchester is the most cosmopolitan City outside of London. If you go to Leeds, like I do, its completely segregated and the Asian community there doesn't like Leeds Utd. They follow the Manchester clubs. I know that because I talk to them.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

You know the club is fucked when a football fan, don't know who he supports, if any team, can get tickets in the home end and sheers his son's hair off before kick off. What the fuck has the club become?

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Still can’t get over this, can’t help but laugh. Could do with a trim on Saturday, hope he’s about still.


I know this has become a cliche saying, but last night it felt like the “games gone”, especially at City. Sold my ticket as I was at work but from what I’ve been hearing from my mates, it was the worst they’ve seen it. Madrid semi final two years ago was just about acceptable, plenty of proper blues and the tourists joined in with the singing. Stewards telling City fans to be quiet for telling Madrid fans to shut up in the City end, send us down to league 2.

 

[CheshireExpat]

Bang on the money mate don’t need to say no more

I mean it's obvious to anyone that someone of "asian" descent who was born here and lives on an estate near the ground is not the same as thousands of rich students or weirdos who have paid silly money to some tout for seat and for a flight.

The person born here should be the one prioritised in this scenario. A bit daft to have to spell this out.

 

[Marvin.]

I totally understand the frustrations on here but what could have been done differently?

From my understanding all season ticket holders got a chance to buy and then the tickets were sold based upon points to Cityzen holders. So So it could have been full of the regulars if they had chosen to go.

So what stopped people? The price? Previous Champions league experiences? Club not allowing tickets to go on the exchange? and what can change going forward.

Something seems wrong that City have grown so much, all reports indicate growth in our support but when the regulars don’t go we don’t have the numbers to fill the spaces.

When we add the North stand I think things will become much worse..

The reason that season ticket holders don't go to Champions League games any more is because their season ticket prices is approaching £1000 and CL tickets are £40 or more, plus if you live outside of Greater Manchester, it's difficult to travel. The last train to London is about 8pm.

City have been very successful. Manchester is a non-racist City. Asians do everything that white working class mancs do. But City fans are noticing the influx of new fans and blaming the lack of atmosphere on them. They aren't going to turn up and sing Bluemoon just as the white families with the 8 years olds in tow don't. But some might in time if 115 keeps going. They won't though. The ticket pricing is an issue.

 

[Marvin.]

I mean it's obvious to anyone that someone of "asian" descent who was born here and lives on an estate near the ground is not the same as thousands of rich students or weirdos who have paid silly money to some tout for seat and for a flight.

The person born here should be the one prioritised in this scenario. A bit daft to have to spell this out.

There might be a few people who have paid a lot of money for tickets but the vast majority just buy up regulars seats who don't come to Cup games.

 

[give it to gordon]

Marvin

Personally I don't think this has anything to do with race. To me I saw video of people just filming on their phones or giving a haircut lol.
I just thought what the fuck is going on ? I didn't qualify for tickets plus I won't spend 70quid on a ticket.
It was that longer go that cl tickets were 40 quid to watch RM, PSG etc and the place was rocking.
I doubt I'll ever attend another cl because I can't afford to go to the early games.
I doubt I'll ever go to a match again after May.
Seeing a tourist walking out of the souvenir shop wearing a spuds shirt, puts this new City over it for a game City v Southampton was bizarre. I question myself 'what am I doing here this isn't my club anymore'
I guess if I was local I might not give up so easily. 600 mile round in my mid 60's to be sat on my own with .u lad and mates doing the same. Modern football isn't for me anymore

PS mu back balance is looking good

 

[.db.]

Why shouldn't they bring an Indian flag. Of course I don't know what the clippers are doing there but amongst any group you will find odd behaviour.

We are having this discussion because some of you are not comfortable around Asians and City have attracted a huge number of Asian fans because Manchester is a cosmopolitan city and City were doing well. On a big football night, they go to the football. Why shouldn't they?

Celtic don't have 20,000 new fans and I don't think many Asians go to football in Glasgow. Manchester is the most cosmopolitan City outside of London. If you go to Leeds, like I do, its completely segregated and the Asian community there doesn't like Leeds Utd. They follow the Manchester clubs. I know that because I talk to them.

Put your race card away and take in the chip off your shoulder.

I know a group of Mancunians of Pakistani heritage who’ve had season tickets at City for years. Good lads who have I chat with at games. You can tell the bloody difference between them and experiencing the City tourists over the last five years or so (who aren’t always ‘Asian’ anyway so why you keep bringing that continent up, I have no idea… last night there were a group if Albanians near me, one jumped up when Madrid scored and was wearing an AlbanianNT shirt and they all stayed sat down for our goals). Yet last night was on a new level for the Champions League tourists who are a distinction again from the new City fan tourist glory hunters.