that's done it............
I wouldn’t say they’re revealing in misery, they’re just passionately disappointed.
That’s fair enough. The cost is much wider than ticket prices. I have nothing but sympathy for those priced out. I know many like that. But some on this forum seem to have other motives and are relentless in their negativity. I do think the extra capacity will actually help by encouraging more discount offers like the Exeter match.
You can still be a city fan, not attend games and have opinions on things like the atmosphere or club policy. I know loads of blues who went to city games for decades, who’ve been priced out. Should they not come on here or are they ‘former fans’.
Some of them, like Colin Schindler, have become former fans. Some of them act as if they hate the club. I don’t take anyone seriously if they preach about atmosphere but don’t attend games for starters.
It's a lot more nuanced than that. You also have to factor in that people are far more likely to vent on an internet forum than if they were discussing things in person. That goes for pretty much any topic by the way, not just City fans who have issues with some of the things the club does. Sure, some people are more negative than others but that's because no two people are the same. As it happens, I'd sooner fans complain about legitimate ticketing issues introduced by some of those in suits (who are career people rather than blues), than fans who constantly slag the players and manager off when we fail to win a game. That winds me up far more. Like the moaning **** on our row on Sunday who never seems to have a good word to say about our players and predictably spat his dummy out when Chelsea equalised and stormed out of the ground. Look, we get it - I was pissed off as well, but I also try to look at things with a bit of balance. We were the better team overall but we didn't take our chances to put the game to bed, and when that happens there's always a danger that the other team will get something, especially if it's a team that has quality players like Chelsea.
You are right of course. It is very complex. We have an ageing fanbase and a crumbling country. I can't remember a time in my life (i am 66) when people have been angrier (perhaps the riot-torn late 70s and 80s). I don't have any problem with anyone venting as long as it is not personalised on individual players. We are the paying customers at the end of the day. But negativity spreads like a disease and I have seen it destroy people and big organisations. Football is an oasis for me and my love of City has got me through some very dark times. And I am sure that's true of most on this forum. I don't think it is such a bad thing to resist negativity. Surrounding yourself with negative people is not good for you. Can we just have a bit of balance once in a while?
Who is this Colin Schindler fella?
Do you think it would be much cheaper if we were average & mid table ?
There is a simple solution and I don’t know why it has not happened. A portion of the broadcast deal should be ringfenced to subsidise ticket prices. The club should do a deal, as happens in Germany, with regional transport operators to include transport with a match ticket. The highest paid players should pay a levy on wages via their union to help local fans, especially those on the lowest incomes. Football is worthless to broadcasters in empty stadia. They need to step up.
Nothing in his post linked success to affordability, weird tangent for you to take .
He wrote that book, ‘Manchester United Ruined My Life’.
It’s not just a City issue, it’s an English football issue. Tickets are too expensive everywhere. But until we protested last Summer we had the most expensive match ticket prices of any club outside London when we’ve always been and still mostly are a working class fanbase around the North West.
At least the moaning **** saw the Chelsea goal. 10,000 had already gone ! ;-)