Attack in Forbury gardens (Reading)

[Winchester]

I suspect you will be dissapointed. He'll probably be in there with a bunch of similar nut jobs all egging each other on.

For his own protection yes,how ironic

 

[Blue Mist]

Wow, what did you say to tick off an entire global religion?

Was it ‘FFS Mahrez’ because I think I might be in trouble?

Well until I read this thread I didn't have a problem with Muslims but it seems they all want to kill me. I'm really scared. I thought our owner bought the club as a business proposition, little did I realise he was just finding out my seat number so he could waste me.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

It’s interesting seeing the difference in reaction to these abhorrent murders (19 pages) and the reaction to the shootings in Moss Side (5 posts).

Aint it just.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Well until I read this thread I didn't have a problem with Muslims but it seems they all want to kill me. I'm really scared. I thought our owner bought the club as a business proposition, little did I realise he was just finding out my seat number so he could waste me.

muslamic ray guns mate.

 

[Stoned Rose]

When it comes to radicalisation,there are certain features that come up a fair bit, though not always uniformly - there's no established profile as such -as far as the backgrounds of those who have carried out acts of terrorism in the name of ISIS or tried to get to Syria or Iraq to fight for them are concerned. These are….

1. Converts tend to be fairly young. There is what is known as a ‘generational aspect’ to the ISIS phenomenon. Just as many of those who joined terrorist groups in the late 60’s and early 70’s like the Red Army (Japan), Baader-Meinhof (Germany) and the SLA (America) were in their late teens or twenties, so are a lot of ISIS recruits. In doing so, they are rejecting the values of their parents.

2. Siblings (brothers, brothers-in-law and occasionally sisters) are over-represented. They also tend to be second generation Muslims (the sons and daughters of immigrants to Western countries) or recent converts to the faith.

3. Many people think that followers of ISIS are strict Muslims. Although this is true when it comes to those living in ISIS controlled territory, this is not always true when it comes to those carrying out attacks in this and other Western countries. Often, they only have a very basic knowledge of Islam and they are unable to either speak or read Arabic (the language in which the Qur’an is written).

4. ISIS recruits tend to think of themselves as salafi-jihadists. As is now widely known, Salafis in the UK follow a very strict form of Islam. They do this in order to copy how they think the first Muslim community in Medina lived (known as the al-salaf al-salih). However, UK Salafis are mainly what is known as ‘quietist’. This means that they are non-violent and do not get involved with politics. Contrastingly, although salafi-jihadists who were born in the West use Salafi jargon in their everyday speech, they are not especially observant in their daily lives and, if they are men, may not wear typical Salafi clothes. For example, they may continue to drink alcohol, listen to Western music and go clubbing right up until the point when they carry out their attacks. But they imagine that dying for the cause will redeem them and also permit them to intercede for their parents in the afterlife.

5. European ISIS recruits frequently turn out to have criminal records. Quite a few became radicalized in prison, as no proper checks were made on Muslim imams who preached there. Nowadays, ISIS recruits can also be radicalized over the internet, by watching sermons written by ISIS supporters, or slick forms of social media produced by ISIS members already in Iraq and Syria that are designed to attract potential followers. In the UK, they have sometimes had a connection to al-Muhajiroun or mosques that were previously radical.

The above is an attempt to summarise some of what I have read in books on ISIS and radicalization by Peter Neumann and Olivier Roy (who don't agree and are not consistent on significant details).

Hope the above helps in some way.

You forgot

6. They're cunts.

 

[lazerblue]

When do the protest marches start

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Thankfully, most rational thinking is done outside of the internet as we’ve gone from “open the pubs” to “open the gun shops/stores” in the space of twenty-four hours.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

You forgot

6. They're cunts.

That too.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Hmm, known to MI5 again. This is becoming a pattern. Have they had their funding cut in the past 10 years, by any chance?

 

[SWP's back]

It’s interesting seeing the difference in reaction to these abhorrent murders (19 pages) and the reaction to the shootings in Moss Side (5 posts).

Isn’t it a case that unless you’re in a gang, you’re unlikely to get shot by a gang member whereas these poor sods (like nearly all victims of terrorism) were simply going about their business?

Apologies if the Moss Side shootings were gang/drug related.